r/XboxSeriesX Nov 20 '23

Starfield is still being worked on by 250 Bethesda devs Discussion

https://www.pcgamesn.com/starfield/bethesda-team
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u/APunnyThing Nov 20 '23

Bethesda has that niche because they earned it with many of their previous titles.

A lot of this hate comes off as residual (and deserved) anger from the release state of Fallout 76. In the years since that games release though it’s gotten a lot better in large part due to seeing what fans wanted (questlines and NPC’s) and implementing that in the game.

Starfield had the unfortunate luck to release in the same year as a once in a generation game Baldur’s Gate 3 (which Larian Studios was basically built from the ground up to make over a decade of work) and the final complete form of Cyberpunk (which took years after a poor release to finally be in a state that it should have been and was advertised as).

The game and its engine are certainly showing its age, I don’t think many people who have played Starfield for more than a few hours would dispute that, but it’s still certainly a fun experience if you go in wanting a Fallot/Skyrim in space.

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u/supernewf2323 Nov 20 '23

It had the unfortunate luck of being released in a year with 10+ Better titles.

everything in that game shows it's age.

mainly

the writing

the combat

the maps

the inventory management

and more

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u/LateRock3936 Nov 20 '23

No offense I stg whatever ten you’ll say EVERYONE can name JUST as many problems for..

In all honesty it’s weird how Starfields the ONLY game I’ve ever seen judge based on what’s it’s NOT???

BG3 is TERRIBLE in EVERYTHING but choice.. Which guess what?? It’s a D&D game, that’s GOING to happen..

But the story’s bad, combats terrible, bro basically EXACTLY what you just listed for Starfield..

But why people also IGNORE the THOUSANDS of bugs, bad pacing, boring filler storylines, the overhead view which just isn’t… It.. It’s like playing Diablo jr.. Plus all things you named for Starfield..

Gamers are fickle af now.. If enough media people would’ve said it was greatness you would’ve accepted it as a goat..

Just like BG3 or even worst Spider-Man which was just not good even if it didn’t have a bug.. We gotta stop acting like cause you can find flaw in a game it makes it bad cause every game can be done that way..

And even to those saying “the games not good” if you ask how MAJORITY say “Idk it just isn’t the same”… That’s what happens when you follow..

Name things you can insert anywhere while ignoring those SAME points when saying “but this games greatness”..

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u/supernewf2323 Nov 20 '23 edited Nov 20 '23

I dont know why you are taking people disliking a game as a personal attack. As someone who has played baldurs gate 3, spiderman 2 and starfield. It's just very clear it's not on their level. The other two games are flaws experiences too. As they both had some bugs and issues I'm not giving starfield shit for what it's not. I'm giving it shit for what it is. What it is. Is subpar. Nearly every aspect in that game. Is done in mediocre fashion. Combat, side objectives, hell even the story is lack luster. Yes there are good elements. But. There's a reason starfield isn't getting the accolades the others are.

It's not a conspiracy. It's just not that great to most. I'm glad you enjoyed it. And feel differently. But it's not an attack on you

Also worth noting "If enough media people would've said it was greatness you would've accepted it as a goat" There's a reason they didn't say it was greatness. It was a flawed experience. I played it. Put a ton of hours in it. It's not bad. It's just. very mediocre. Baldur's gate and spider-man have flaws as well. But what they do well they do exceptionally well.

Starfield has nothing i felt was done exceptionally well. Maybe ship customization. But that's about it.

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u/LateRock3936 Nov 20 '23

That’s LITERALLY applied to BG3 and Spider-Man but you’re proving me right... They BOTH have those flaws.. Again BG3 story IS subpar, like LITERALLY doesn’t get good until halfway through the 4 act..

Spider-Man 2 story was NOT subpar to you???

Spider-Man 2 is MM and 2018 together with NOTHING new.. And it’s 17 hrs long with JUST as many bugs as Starfields 50 hr main quest.. Side quests almost don’t even exist in terms of Spider-Man dude..

Truth is I didn’t enjoy Starfield.. I LITERALLY bought it and it’s off my Xbox at this point.. The point is I’ve bought BOTH the other games and they were JUST as bad 😂..

Fuck Starfield and Bethesda, BG3 and Spidey.. Hogwarts legacy is GOTY THATS facts..

The other fact is BG3 isn’t some “Elden Ring” Elden did well on ALL platforms not just PC..

Fact is Spider-Man 2 is about as good as watching paint dry.. Like bro I can sit my controller down, walk away, and it’s STILL sitting..

No lbh it’s a Xbox thing.. Ghost of Tsushima was a 83 meta is “mediocre” now??? Cause it got a GOTY nom, and has ALWAYS been seen as one of the best RPGs PS ever made??

What Starfield does better than either is be FUN..

Spider-Man’s NOT fun.. It’s nice to watch.. But NOWHERE is it fun..

BG3 is in all honesty just good outside of choice.. It’s why the games selling point isn’t “This epic story” or “A great this”.. It’s “You can fuck bears”….. Yes media tells you guys what to say cause as I said from start..

You guys have no explanations of your own.. You keep saying yeah all these games are flawed but ONLY Starfield is REALLY subpar because… Well.. The other games better at what they good at…

It’s really stupid imo..

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '23

Calm down Todd. Go back to bed

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u/Insertusername4135 Nov 23 '23

Dude it’s clear your reasoning for not liking those games is Microsoft didn’t make them. Those games are reviewed highly and nominated for several awards for a reason, they’re amazing. Starfield missed the mark, that doesn’t mean it’s a bad game it’s just not as good as those other ones.