r/XboxSeriesX Nov 20 '23

Starfield is still being worked on by 250 Bethesda devs Discussion

https://www.pcgamesn.com/starfield/bethesda-team
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u/rusty022 Nov 20 '23

I enjoyed the game generally, but it's definitely soulless. They need fundamental changes for me to consider it 'great', and they just don't do those kind of things post-release. I rushed the main story and started a sandbox NG+ and honestly I'm bored. I platinum'd Spidey 2 and I'm probably gonna uninstall Starfield. I was gonna do all the factions but I did Ryujin first and it was very whelming. Mantis is supposed to be one of the best in the game and it was good, but if that's one of the high points of a 100+ hour game then that's a big disappointment.

It's fine. But 'fine' describes Xbox for the last decade. Not good enough.

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u/darkseidis_ Nov 20 '23 edited Nov 20 '23

Obviously not science, but I’m starting to notice a break in the opinion on the game with people who rush to NG+ vs. people who stay in their first universe doing everything first.

I think “influencers” were a detriment to the game putting so much emphasis on NG+ out of the gate, causing so many people to rush through the game. That was definitely not the intention of the NG+ mechanic.

I spent 250+ in my first universe doing all of the storylines (Ryujin is definitely the weakest btw), exploring planets, and finding fun side quests, and at least for me, that’s definitely the way the game should be enjoyed. My world feels pretty full and lived in.

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u/ImNotTheBossOfYou Nov 20 '23

I'm SOO glad I didn't rush the first universe

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u/rusty022 Nov 20 '23

I mostly rushed it because I heard some great and some awful main story reviews and wanted to see how it went mostly without spoilers. So I beat it about 20 hours in having done almost no side quest stuff. At that point, why not NG+?

Maybe ‘influencers’ hurt my experience, but I also play lots of games specifically for the main story so I wanted to experience that part first.

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u/cardonator Craig Nov 20 '23

I don't think it's a wrong way to play the game but I do agree with OP that it gives people a really skewed sense of the game because it's significantly more likely to run into repetitive AND boring content in NG+ since you already found all the artifacts and presumably several of the powers and the core of the game pushes you to return to doing that again in NG+, which leads to a lot of the same locations.

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u/rusty022 Nov 20 '23

Yea, I guess. But the artifacts and (especially) temples are already super boring and tedious the first time. I haven't engaged at all with the main quest after NG+ besides going far enough to get Andreja as a companion, which I think was the first handful of artifacts and only took like 45 minutes?

That said, I'm bored by the dialogue and fast travel. I'm just going through dialogue chains and then fast traveling to the next step of the mission. I guess I could 'force' myself to play differently but I'm not interested in forcing myself to play around a game's glaring issues.

This is part of why I only barely started the Freestar faction and then quit. I'm just bored by the cycle of the gameplay. Maybe I just don't like BGS games. I've never put more than a few hours into the others, although I'm moving Skyrim up my backlog and will likely play it early next year :)

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u/cardonator Craig Nov 20 '23

I dunno, I'm not trying to suggest that you should play it in a specific way. I just think that's it's misrepresentative of the game to tell people that they should get to NG+ to really start enjoying the game. You actually had a lot of people rushing through the story then dropping into NG+ to see all the repeating content.

Everything else isn't going to be for everyone anyway.

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u/Any-Newspaper1922 Nov 20 '23

I did most of the content before ng+ and i felt the game fall short a lot of times. I don't think it's what you say.

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u/PM_UR_PROBLEMS_GIRL Nov 20 '23

This is cope. I've not rushed anything, 20 hours in and got bored. Spent 100s of hours in bethesda titles

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u/darkseidis_ Nov 20 '23

People having different take on something subjective than you isnt cope, your opinion isn’t definitive.

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u/Joutja Nov 20 '23

Cope as in coping?

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u/ShitPostsRuinReddit Nov 20 '23

Everything has to be slang these days. That's not really how you use the word cope, but they're mimicking the whole "copium" meme commonly seen online.

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u/Joutja Nov 20 '23

Ah right. Cool. Thank you. This is the first I've seen it used like that so I was wondering if something new had come out. 😂

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u/ShitPostsRuinReddit Nov 20 '23

See also, the just as annoying use of "hype" online. I'm so hype, get hype, etc.

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u/Tea-Mental Nov 20 '23

Well, I think it is.

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u/dinofreak6301 Nov 20 '23

lol I feel like you people are going into the game expecting to dislike it and so you find everything possible to not like in the few amount of hours you play. I was very neutral going in and I totally understand a lot of the criticisms it gets but given I wasn’t having a bitch in my ear tell me to hate it, I find it overall pretty enjoyable 🤷‍♂️

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '23

I did just about everything first. I don't dislike my new game +. But what I will say is that most of the experience has felt soulless. One of the issues for me is that not only does it feel barren and lifeless in general, but the planets are so deeply boring. Where are the planets raining diamonds? Or ice volcano worlds? Where are the planets with megafauna, or giant trees? What about floating mountains (like in the Avatar films) or underwater cities? Where's the asteroid cities or space station cities? What about the community that lives in the asteroid belts mining?

The game is so deeply boring and lifeless. It hugely lacks imagination. If you Google "the most interesting things in space" you'll find more fun stuff in 5 minutes than you will in 50 hours of this game.

That's a damning reality of this game.

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u/xSixtyNinex Nov 21 '23

Yeah it was obvious to me when I found there were some parts named 'AFT' but didn't have a port piece.

And equally telling is that you need to press rotate to change variants, not actually rotating at all on half the pieces, but the other half you have to press variant to change variant. It's pretty obvious they didn't finish it.

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u/TheReaver Nov 21 '23

yeah i focused on getting to NG+ due to everyone online recommending it. it really killed my motivation to continue. ill get back into it when more updates come.

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u/Existing365Chocolate Nov 21 '23

Not rushing through the game is pretty boring though

There’s not much to do besides the quests and main side quest lines

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u/darkseidis_ Nov 21 '23

Personally, I don’t get this take at all. I wasn’t just doing nothing for like 10 real life days of play time.

I loved doing the Constellation mission board, the Ranger board bounties, scanning random planet I came across, ship building, stopping to talk to random NPCs picking up a bunch of side quests, etc.