r/XboxSeriesX • u/F0REM4N • Nov 16 '23

Digital Foundry Thinks 60FPS Starfield Is Now 'More Viable' On Xbox Series X News

https://www.purexbox.com/news/2023/11/digital-foundry-thinks-60fps-starfield-is-now-more-viable-on-xbox-series-x
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u/HGLatinBoy Nov 16 '23

When they get this game to 60 fps I will consider it.

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u/HolyRamenEmperor Nov 16 '23

I played for several hours and honestly even that wouldn't bring me back. The concept is just... boring. Settlements and ships are copy pasted, combat is not exciting, dialogue and NPCs feel extremely awkward and unrealistic, menus and fast travel to get anywhere. The game overall would have been "a triumph" if it was released 10 years ago, even with lower graphic fidelity. But today it just misses the mark. It pretty much ignores all of the advancements games like Witcher, Horizon, and Cyberpunk made to the action-RPG genre.

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u/Muha8159 Nov 16 '23

I'm not sure how you got all that after a few hours.

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '23

Well, they did say several hours. Not sure where you got few from.

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u/Muha8159 Nov 16 '23

I mean in many cases it's the same thing. It's a small number great than 2. It still doesn't sound like they played it enough to come up with all that.

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '23

Well, no. That isn't what several means. Several generally means several, which is a lot. Which is more than few.

I'd argue someone has to play several hours to be able to come up with all that, you aren't going to come away with that much criticism after a few hours, right?

I too have several hours, and have very similar criticisms as them. But I greatly enjoy Bethesda games, so even with Starfield's flaws I've been enjoying myself. Doesn't mean some aspects of the game are not disappointing though.

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u/Muha8159 Nov 16 '23

No, you're just wrong. Here's the Oxford dictionary definition: "more than two but not many.

So exactly what I said.

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '23

Got to have some social intelligence on top of knowing strict definitions too though. Rarely when a real person uses several do they mean 3, but instead more than 3. Several usually means 5 or more, and few, means 3. I'd argue 5+ hours is more than enough to come away with those critiques.

Arguing over the usage of several. Peak redditor convo.

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u/LostOnTrack Nov 16 '23

I don’t think 5+ hours is enough to criticize the game, tbh, but I’ll agree with you that arguing semantics over the word “several” is honestly funny as fuck. No one knows how many hours u/HolyRamenEmperor actually put into his playthrough, but Redditors with their “gotcha” moments will always fetch more upvotes rather than the actual points made.

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '23

Yeah lol. Instead of speaking on the critiques they just assumed they had barely touched the game.

Anyone who plays Starfield knows those criticisms are fair. It doesn't take 10 hours to see them, they are glaringly obvious from early on. Hell, I saw clone POIs within the first few hours on bounty missions. For me, none of it is enough to make me not want to play. I'm still having a lot of fun blasting through missions and exploring. But for others, it's enough to put the game down, and that's fine.

People on reddit act like everything has to be 10/10 or 0/10. And if you disagree then you must just be wrong. Starfield is a good game but certainly has some flaws.

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u/LostOnTrack Nov 16 '23

I agree with you here. I actually have a post from a couple weeks ago sharing my frustrations with the ship system in Starfield, I had two ships literally vanish from my shipyard and my entire game without a trace. It’s incredibly frustrating when you want to enjoy a game but you constantly get taken out of the immersion by repetitive gameplay and/or actual game-breaking bugs.

I don’t think Starfield is a bad game, nor do I want it to fail. It can be fun and enjoyable, I had fun for quite a while, I just think it needs a lottt of work before I hop back on it. Sitting in seats for an excruciating 48 in-game hours just to sell black market goods to vendors and having ships disappear on me rubs me the wrong way. I’d prefer if the games I play don’t waste my time & effort. IIRC, I saw a post in r/Starfield where a guy lost ALL of his guns, weapons, armor and collectibles in his home because the map reset due to a mission. That would be enough for me to drop the game completely.

Unfortunately, voicing these concerns in these subreddits leads you to getting downvoted. So, yeah, I don’t understand the cult-like behavior over a damn video game. It deserves the criticism.

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '23 edited Nov 16 '23

I too recently had one of my ships disappear. It's completely gone, only option was to load a back up save from hours before lmao.

But yeah, often all nuance is lost in internet converations. I enjoy Starfield and will be coming back to it, especially when xbox mods and DLC are released, but I'd be lying to you if I said I'm not a bit worried about Elder Scrolls 6. I think it's time for Bethesda to push the boundaries again.

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u/Muha8159 Nov 16 '23

You're the one that came in and argued semantic in a conversation you weren't even part of and now you're arguing with a dictionary defination. Either way I don't consider 5 hours enough time to be able to point out all those flaws. It just looks like he's complaining about stuff he read online. 5 hours in you're practically still the induction. You have shit weapons, no boostpack, and have hardly been anywhere and have had no meaningful dialog choices.

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '23

You deliberately used few instead of several, which is what they used, to make it sound like they barely touched the game. Don't get silly on me.

I had a boost pack within the first hour, it often spawns in the end chest of the first "dungeon". I noticed all those flaws within my first 5 hours. 5 hours is a long time, I was taking bounties from Mars by then.

They are common complaints because they are noticeable flaws. It doesn't mean the game is bad, but it does mean for some people it's enough to not play. I love the game, but it's ok for people to not like the game.

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u/Muha8159 Nov 16 '23

So your definition of few and serveral are 1 or 2 units apart and you think that's a big difference in definitions? lol ok. A few or serveral hours is not enough time to get the whole picture of a 100+ hour game. Period.

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '23

5+.

As I have said, their critiques are valid and fair, it's just a matter of if those issues bother someone or not.

For someone it does bother, explain to me please, why someone would force themselves to do 100 hours of something they don't enjoy to get the whole picture? That makes absolutely no sense.

If they were silly complaints like, "the spacesuits are ugly", then yes play more. You'll find better looking ones. But everything they complained about is correct. Besides copy pasted ships, that's ridiculous.

Anyways, don't think there's much else to say here.

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u/tTaStYy Nov 17 '23

I had several options...

I had few options...

Do those sound the same?

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u/Muha8159 Nov 17 '23

It depends how it's used. By definition, several means three or more but a large number, which can also be said for the word few it just doesn't go as high as serveral. They can both be the same on the low end though.

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u/Onlyallthetime Founder Nov 16 '23

They also cited Horizon as having advanced the action-RPG genre. Yes, all those incredible innovations in an Assassin's Creed clone.

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u/Muha8159 Nov 16 '23

Horizon

What? How is it an Assassin's Creed clone. They're nothing alike except they're open world with a bunch of waypoints.