Invincible [COMIC SPOILER Discussion] - S01E06 - You Look Kinda Dead

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Episode 6 - You Look Kinda Dead

Mark joins William and Amber on a campus visit to Upstate University, hoping to discover a new future for himself. Debbie makes her own disturbing discovery.

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[u/MNight_Slam]

I suspected William and Rick would be an item from the start, and that definitely added a lot more emotional weight to the Reaniman plot. That said, while I definitely don't mind them condensing that plot to one episode... Sinclair had Rick in his dungeon for what, two or three hours? Hell of a turnaround rate, especially as compared to the comics. Not that hard to forgive in a superhero show, though.

I think the Mark/Amber stuff is actually working for me pretty well. It could feel redundant, but showing Amber trying to help out with crowd control during the Reaniman attack really hammered home how shitty it would be for Mark to just disappear. And her anger afterwards felt very real, and much heavier than anything from the previous episode where he stood her up. Like this version of Amber is obviously very principled, so Mark being a flake is nowhere near as bad for her as him being a coward. It really added to the mounting pressure on Mark in general, and that paid off with him shattering Sinclair's jaw - I love that they recreated that comic panel. In the comics themselves it was really just Mark's rage at Sinclair for what he did to Rick, but here it's Mark taking out all that frustration with Amber, plus seeing Sinclair ruin the much happier relationship between William and Rick, and going just a little bit overboard.

Basically Kirkman is taking all these disconnected elements from the comics and weaving them together in a really compelling way along with his changes to the show. Just two more episodes left, right? I actually wouldn't be surprised if they have the Mark/Nolan fight next week, with the finale serving as the fallout.

Also, Cecil. With the audience privy to both his and Omni-Man's secrets (or at least the fact that they have secrets) I really liked that sort of poker-faced conversation about Damien at the beginning. Then when he comes back at the end to clean up after Mark's fight with Sinclair: "I would have done the same thing." The same thing as who, Cecil? 😏

[u/Beerbaron1886 → u/MNight_Slam]

By fleshing out amber (even her influencing Eve), she’s more than the blonde bimbo type from the comics

[u/Roy-Southman → u/Beerbaron1886]

Yeah, show Amber is awesome. They already introduced what’s-his-face too, I think they might get rid of the abusive boyfriend subplot. It makes sense for comic Amber because she is more of a bimbo, but show Amber is not gonna take that. Goatee either gets his ass kicked by her or he gets a new characterization.

[u/Beerbaron1886 → u/Roy-Southman]

• mark tells her and they try to have a working relationship but fail. She eventually gets abused like in the comic (not likely)
• mark tells her, they try but amber cheats with what’s his face because mark is always gone (not likely)
• mark doesn’t tell her and they broke up. Maybe after he confronts Nolan and sees his devastated mother, Mark is too afraid to tell more people about his secret identity (likely)
• mark tells her and they try but fail. She doesn’t get abused. We see that she gets close with what’s his face though (likely)
• a shocking twist

All the female characters in the comics but Eve and Amanda were not very well written. To me, everything about comic Amber was to check boxes about cliches, even the abuse and that she stayed with the guy.

[u/Roy-Southman → u/Beerbaron1886]

You are right about the likely outcomes. I’m glad the show characters are better written. I think Kirkman realized his weak characterization of several supporting characters and worked to improved them for the show. He is also older now and probably has improved in his storytelling. Amber was too much of a stereotype in the comics. Show Amber might eventually fade in the background, but at least she is better written and seems to be having a positive impact on the overall arcs of people other than Mark.

[u/moose_man → u/Beerbaron1886]

I kinda feel iffy that they decided to make her like the one Black character in the cast considering what a throwaway character Amber is. Like, there's no way they don't break up so he and Eve can get together for the end, and if they do break up there really isn't a place for her in the series. There isn't much of a place for William in the series and he's allegedly Mark's best friend.

[u/Beerbaron1886 → u/moose_man]

I would say they have a very diverse cast with Eve, William and Cecil as the only white characters now. I think Rex, even with a migration background (not sure if I remember correctly) is more “brown” in the show

[u/Dokibatt → u/MNight_Slam]

I think if they had stretched it to like 2 or 3 days with Rick, it really could have worked.