r/Invincible • u/SeacattleMoohawks Séance Mod • Mar 26 '21

Invincible [Comic SPOILERS Discussion] - S01E01-03 - It's About Time, Here Goes Nothing, Who You Calling Ugly? COMIC SPOILERS

This post is for Comic Spoiler Discussion, if you'd like to discuss the new series with comic book context please use this thread. If you don't want to be spoiled use the other thread.

Official Trailer

Episode 1 - It's About Time

When Mark Grayson finally inherits powers from his superhero father, it's a dream come true. But there's more to being a hero than just choosing a name and costume.

Episode 2 - Here Goes Nothing

With his father out of action, Mark struggles to defend the city against an interdimensional invasion, joining forces with a team of teenage superheroes.

Episode 3 - Who You Calling Ugly?

Mark has to cut a study date short to help save Mount Rushmore from a crazed scientist. Robot deals with Action - Comic as he assembles a new team of world-saving superheroes.

Full cast, crew and characters

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u/CoolCreekFlats83 Mar 26 '21

Did they rename Science Dog?

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u/mmcintoshmerc_88 Battle Beast Mar 26 '21

Yeah it's seance dog now, not sure why

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u/Satsuma0 Mar 26 '21

Maybe it's a multiversal thing. Our first dimensional Mark loved reading Science Dog comics. In this dimension, TV Mark loves Seance Dog instead. Another Mark turned evil and lead the Viltrumite Empire to dominate the galaxy. Small changes here and there.

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u/CapnSmite Mar 26 '21

In other words, Angstrom Levy's fucking with us.

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u/bladedoodle Mar 27 '21

I really hope we get to see more of ‘Son of Levy’

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u/CoolCreekFlats83 Mar 26 '21

Extremely weird change.

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u/mmcintoshmerc_88 Battle Beast Mar 26 '21

I think it might be some copyright thing and it was fine when it was just comics but not in a TV show.

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u/mwthecool Omni-Mod Mar 26 '21

There was a card about it under Amazon's "X-Ray" tab at the side of the screen saying that they wanted to create something entirely new for the show, I think because Science Dog itself became its own story/comic. I'm misremembering what it said, but you can go back and check it out. It's in the bathroom scene.

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u/AndChewBubblegum Mar 29 '21

I figured it was indicating that this is another parallel universe than the comic takes starts in. Thus helping set the stage for all the changes.

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u/SecondOfFebruary Mar 27 '21

https://www.google.com/amp/s/screenrant.com/invincible-science-dog-seance-comic-change-why/amp/

Robert and Cory didn't want Science Dog in the deal with Amazon so they can make a show or a movie at some point in the future

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u/Thorvokt Mar 27 '21

Copyright laws are so weird, would it be very complicated for Amazon just have the right to say his name but not for a show or a movie? I mean, it's not like it's a problem or anything, i just think it's weird

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '21

Kirkman owns the copyright for all of these characters, so it's not exactly that. If you read between the lines, he's basically saying he wants to reserve the right to cash in on Science Dog and some of his other properties (Brit, Wolf-Man, etc) if the show is a success. Selling the development rights to those IPs separately is smart from a business perspective. They handled it well with the Seance Dog bit. The test will be to see how/if they handle Tech Jacket.

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u/sweetcreep Banished to Hell Mar 26 '21

Carl wore a science dog shirt on walking dead season one, might have something to do with amc holding the rights for it.

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u/Sockemslol2 Robot Mar 26 '21

How stupid

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u/NothinButKn8 Mar 26 '21 edited Mar 26 '21

I think it's so they can do a Dr. Strange parody character, Mark has a poster on his wall and it's of a dog in a similar costume

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u/TheFightingMasons Mar 26 '21

That’s hilarious. Love that pose.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '21

Probably because Science Dog is a real thing now and they'd have to pay for the rights

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u/torinatsu Science Dog Mar 29 '21

I love the doctor strange costume though

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u/jrgolden42 Mar 26 '21

From an interview

I always like to open up the hardest hitting question right off the bat. So: why change Science Dog to Séance Dog?

Robert Kirkman: [Laughs] Yeah, look. I think that the nuts and bolts answer… I’m trying to come up with something creative and fun, but the nuts and bolts answers is that Science Dog is a separate comic book that Cory Walker and I created that just happened to appear [in Invincible]. It’s possible that we may do a movie or TV show or something at some point. Instead of putting that down in our deal with Amazon, on Invincible, we decided to strip it out and put in something new so that we would have the ability to do that.

Source: https://decider.com/2021/03/26/invincible-amazon-prime-video-robert-kirkman-interview/

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u/borkborkbork99 Mar 28 '21

Jokes on them. Now I really want to watch a series based on a dog protecting our world from dark occult threats.

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u/cavy8 Mar 26 '21

I like.... Was way more bothered by this change than I would've expected. Science Dog is just one of those things I have linked to the series so strongly

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u/Zip_a_dee_lad Ro-Mod Mar 26 '21

Yeah, but it's just a creative choice though. Robert Kirkman owns everything he's published for Image, including Invincible and Science dog and every other super hero that he created in this universe, like Tech Jacket or the Astounding Wolf-Man. All this to say, we may still see cameos from these other heroes, and theoretically they could use science dog (although they probably won't)

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u/CitizenKeen Mar 28 '21

He's said we won't.

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u/Tellesus Monster Girl Mar 27 '21

Yes, it has to do with how rights work in comics vs how they work in shows and movies. Because they're different properties with difference licenses and stuff. Apparently this will also effect the possibility of having Brit or Tech Jacket in the show. Kirkman mentioned this during his AMA.