r/Invincible Mar 28 '24

Why do people say « I wish I was Mark » in regards to THAT scene when they can wish to be this man instead? COMIC SPOILERS

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I never understood it. Mark is a SA victim, that’s not something to want. Who the hell looks forward to getting rped? On the other hand, Scott still has sex with Anissa AND it’s loving and consensual relationship where she doesn’t act like an alien tyrant anymore. It’s leagues better than what she did to Mark. Even if someone wants to acknowledge that she’s physically attractive, they can still do that without the rpe victim part.

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u/Suspicious_Loan8041 The Immortal Mar 28 '24

Because on the surface Anissa is very hot and it seems like free sex. If she were uglier, I think the reality of getting raped would be way more obvious to some people.

I’m sure the show is gonna make the scene way more horrific, but in the comics, you just get a few small panels of a chick with giant breasts sweating and moaning on top of a ripped mark. Porn would desensitize a lot of people to that.

It’s very hard for a lot of people to take male SA victims seriously. The context here doesn’t help since it’s clear Mark wasn’t fighting back nearly as much as he could have. Even the comics tossed around the idea that if he truly didn’t want it, he coulda stopped it. Basically since he’s a man, he had to want it in some way, therefore it’s not a big deal.

I’m curious if the show is gonna make the physical difference between them more pronounced to really show the lack of control, or if they’re gonna lean into the confusion male victims have about if they LET it happen by making Mark a way closer match to her.

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u/That_one_drunk_dude Allen the Alien Mar 29 '24

Even the comics tossed around the idea that if he truly didn’t want it, he coulda stopped it. Basically since he’s a man, he had to want it in some way, therefore it’s not a big deal.

Isn't that only ever stated from Mark's POV? During the event itself, the visuals make it pretty clear that Mark is completely outmatched, overwhelmed and Anissa is just ragdolling him. It's only a lot later on when Mark is stuck in a "What if" fallacy where he's guilting himself into thinking he could've done more, which is a feeling a lot of SA survivors unfortunately struggle with, especially male ones.

I always felt like the comic handled the whole SA-event pretty well, especially for its time. It's never played for laughs, there are a lot of emotional and social consequences to it that last for the entire run of the comic, down to the final issue.

Sure, there's definitely things it could've done better but that's always the case, and there is the whole question of "Did Anissa deserve a happy life without redeeming herself to Mark?" but that might be said about all the Viltrumites who've all done horrific things during their lifetimes, among which SA if Anissa is to be believed, so that's a broader question.