r/Invincible • u/mwthecool Omni-Mod • Mar 28 '24

Invincible [Episode Discussion] - S02E07 - I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE EPISODE DISCUSSION

Episode 7 - I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE

As Mark attempts to salvage his personal life, a new villain arrives, presenting Invincible with his greatest challenge yet. Donald grapples with his past.

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u/Imightwantkarma Mar 28 '24

No where was it shown Anissa is stronger than Nolan. Even Anissa speaks about Nolan’s strength like it’s legendary

They said she was faster, she is clearly more of a speed fighter than strength one.

We 100% know Nolan leagues stronger than mark and most viltrumites. We saw that on the throxan planet.

Also mark didn’t try to kill Anissa like he did for a moment in the other fight. He was still pulling his punches unlike how Nolan tells him to make every punch a killing punch. You can tell from his leverage

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u/GNSasakiHaise Mar 28 '24

beyond Nolan's demonstrated strength.

As I said in another comment, the more likely thing is that Nolan was pulling punches on Earth. Nolan can 2v1 standard Viltrumites. Mark can 1v1 a standard Viltrumite. Mark only had an 18% chance of survival against Anissa.

Second, Viltrumites describe flight like a muscle. If she's faster than Nolan, she's probably also stronger than Nolan... but again, this is only relative to what Nolan demonstrated on Earth. We don't have a reason to believe Anissa is stronger than current Nolan or even beyond Nolan's actual strength at that time.

That is why "demonstrated" is the operative word.

This is Mark's first encounter with a Viltrumite ON EARTH SPECIFICALLY that isn't holding back, and she dumpsters him. Then she tells him that someone even stronger is coming. It's a Raditz type of story beat.

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u/Imightwantkarma Mar 28 '24

Mark cant 1v1 a standard viltrumite in his current state, he would need to fight like his father which he doesn’t

Why is her being faster mean she is also stronger? They never say this, red rush is faster than Nolan doesn’t mean he is stronger. No one said she was stronger at any point and she never demonstrated and strength remotely close to Nolan and again she spoke about Nolan like he was stronger than her

It’s well established Nolan is one of the stronger viltrumites and from his stories he was given the most dangerous missions because of this.

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u/GNSasakiHaise Mar 28 '24

Red Rush is a human.

I don't think you're trying to examine this critically if your lead statement is "Mark can't 1v1 a standard Viltrumite." Viltrumites don't have a power triangle like speed > strength > technique. The primary story beat is that they're all surprised by her and encouraged Mark to just give up because she was so much stronger than him.

This was not a part of the plan. They are well aware of what Anissa could do and decided making her leave was the only actual option left.

Anissa is a show of strength and upped stakes in the same way that Raditz was to Piccolo. One threat is now obsolete because the hero can't deal with the new threat, and now ANOTHER guy even stronger is coming! Oh no, the stakes have been upped.

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u/ssdrootkit Apr 18 '24

Anissa is not stronger than Nolan.