r/Invincible • u/mwthecool Omni-Mod • Mar 28 '24

Invincible [Episode Discussion] - S02E07 - I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE EPISODE DISCUSSION

Episode 7 - I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE

As Mark attempts to salvage his personal life, a new villain arrives, presenting Invincible with his greatest challenge yet. Donald grapples with his past.

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u/pvXNLDzrYVoKmHNG2NVk Mar 28 '24

Which says there's a huge gap between Mark and Allen. When is Mark's zenkai boost happening? He gets his teeth kicked in like every three episodes.

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u/domcondone Mar 28 '24

They grow back at least

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u/romeovf Mar 28 '24

I like that they addressed that. After Nolan beating him up in season one I wondered if Cecil sent people to look for Mark's teeth. Now I know better.

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u/voidsong Mar 29 '24

They just gotta keep knocking his teeth out every day, and they'll have enough teeth to build armor!

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u/D-Speak Mar 28 '24

He's like a shark.

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u/only_horscraft Mar 28 '24

Marks power boost is like a natural body builder, the beating slowly strengthen up over time but it’s slow. Allen is like the bodybuilder who took every steroid at once.

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u/eldenringabuse47 Mar 28 '24

actually i think he's basically a good guy cyclops version of Doomsday from dc.

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whenever doomsday dies he adapts and comes back stronger and stronger. same goes for allen.

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u/blamblam111 Mar 28 '24

Or a Saiyan from DBZ, near death experience and he comes back stronger than ever, hell he even healed in a pod like Goku on Namek

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u/CrackLawliet Mar 28 '24

We've come full circle

When is Mark's zenkai boost happening?

That's what a Zenkai boost is

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u/chillwithpurpose Apr 07 '24

lol I love these threads. Gonna miss it tell next season.

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u/only_horscraft Mar 28 '24

That’s what I was kind of getting at. I meant to say in terms of power growth speed, Allen is a lot faster than Mark. Allen dies once and gets jacked up enough to handle viltrumites. Marks power growth comes from taking a beating but it’s a lot more slower considering he gets his shit kicked in every episode.

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u/Vanstrudel_ Mar 28 '24

Allen gets stronger from near-death experiences

Mark/Viltrumites get stronger through training and age, not from getting fucked up.

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u/Anjunabeast Mar 29 '24

When was it established that mark gets zenkai boosts?

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u/Sophophilic Mar 29 '24

Allen also had an unusual recovery this most recent time. I wouldn't be surprised if he's got some Viltrumite spliced into him.

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u/sharkiest Mar 29 '24

Pretty much every character in Invincible is a copy of another. Allen is a copy of Beta Ray Bill (alien turned into a superhero in order to protect the others of their race) and Doomsday (if he dies, he comes back strong enough to beat the thing that killed him).

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u/Sophophilic Mar 30 '24

That doesn't really address what I said though? The Viltrumite Optimus Prime explicitly said he did something risky to Allen and we don't know if it was a one time boost or if he'll now always get a huge boost when he's recovers from near death.

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u/heliostraveler Mar 30 '24

He didn’t do anything risky except allow for his reactive adaptation abilities to either kick or not. The one youve been replying to hit it dead on. He’s Kirkman’s Doomsday. But as a protagonist.

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u/80SW08 Mar 31 '24

Were you paying attention?

“Forgive me Allen”

“I left you to fend for yourself”

“You would either die, or recover stronger than before”

“I’m sorry I gambled with your life”

He literally says that what he did was a risk because he wasn’t certain that Allen would recover. He says it like 3 times.

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u/heliostraveler Mar 31 '24

You literally said he did something to Allen. He did the exact opposite. Nothing. 

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u/Stunning_Alarm2064 Mar 28 '24

Getting the shit kicked out of him is marks thing.

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u/IllumiNoEye_Gaming Cecil Stedman Mar 28 '24

well thats only because hes...

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u/zombizle1 Mar 28 '24

invulnerable

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u/scibieseverywhere Mar 28 '24

pretty strong

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u/Vanstrudel_ Mar 28 '24

Never quite killed enough to actually die

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u/adilreyaz Mar 28 '24

INVISIBLE

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u/buttsecks42069 Mar 28 '24

Then why can I see him? Checkmate atheists

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u/adilreyaz Mar 28 '24 edited Apr 08 '24

You can see him? Damn that must be nice. I can't cuz he invisible.

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u/JaHuck10 Mar 28 '24

The guy from Fortnite

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u/Psilly_Dave Mar 29 '24

Part Viltrumite

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u/Hairy-Dot-4193 Invincible Mar 30 '24

Uncircumcised

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u/IllumiNoEye_Gaming Cecil Stedman Mar 30 '24

i wonder if viltrumite foreskins grow back

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u/greatness101 Mar 28 '24

And here I am thinking he's just holding back since that episode from Thraxa, but no he really is that weak. Or rather, he's not on the same level as these elite Viltrimites yet.

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u/obsessed_doomer Mar 28 '24

It is getting a little frustrating ngl, I thought episode 4 meant Mark starts losing fights less, nope

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u/TheAughat Cecil Stedman Mar 28 '24

Tbh it's really refreshing to see, especially coming from anime where most protagonists nowadays in shows with superpowers are the most broken characters ever

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u/CheekyBastard55 Mar 28 '24

In the last episode with the mind controlling face huggers when Mark takes out all the martian ships with ease and gets the look from Eve, I thought it was meant to show how much stronger he is now. Like you, I was bamboozled.

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u/teh_fizz Mar 28 '24

I mean, he is. But don't Viltrumites get stronger the longer they age? Plus he's half human.

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u/CheekyBastard55 Mar 28 '24

They've explained that Viltrumite DNA is so strong that it basically isn't diluted and he shouldn't be any weaker than a "full blooded" Viltrumite.

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u/ElAutistico Mar 28 '24

Yeah, idk he‘s getting kicked around like 85% of the time, it‘s starting to get boring

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u/Slight_Education_339 Mar 29 '24

Yep. The always losing isn't a good watch

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u/Likyo Mar 29 '24

He could've easily flown through the monster like he did the ships last episode. I think he's just kinda dumb, holding back without even realising it.

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u/KenBoCole Mar 28 '24

Viltrumites grow stronger by training. Generally the older Viltrumites are stronger as they have had time to train.

Mark has been invincible for like 2 years.

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u/NUCLEARGAMER1103 Mar 28 '24

Not exactly training, they get stronger with each battle/significant injury they survive. The older Viltrumites tend to be stronger because they've survived more battles. But given how frequently Mark gets destroyed, he'll probably close the gap quicker than the non main characters.

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u/QueasyIsland Mar 28 '24

He’s the super powered version of Takemitchy from Tokyo revengers

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u/ILoveRegenHealth Mar 28 '24

My theory is when Mark really goes into angry kill mode, he becomes stronger. We saw that on that Thraxian planet when he got pissed and took Nolan's advice.

But when he's back to default mode, he's just not as strong as Nolan or Anissa.

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u/kjm6351 Allen the Alien Mar 28 '24

He wasn’t kidding when he said he’d win

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u/Strong_Schedule5466 Mar 28 '24

Well, he had kind of a boost when he kicked some viltrumite ass alongside Omni-Man, but I hope we'll see more than that from him.

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u/Daan_aerts Mar 29 '24

When he lets go and the viltrumite side takes over he’s a beast, but so far that’s only been shown when the ones he cares about are in danger (his no killing rule isn’t helping that either, but it helps to show his inner conflict between viltrumite and human )

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u/DangerousCrime Apr 03 '24

Bro Mark just needs to start hitting the gym and start training man. Dude's a skinny guy right now

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u/t_moneyzz Robot Mar 28 '24

Oh not for a good while hahaha

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u/Sparl Mar 28 '24

We gonna get Super Sayain Mark any day now?

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u/Locem Mar 29 '24

I think Cecil might give Mark the gigantic magnetic bench press next episode

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u/Redditer51 Mar 30 '24

Mark is like Gon in Hunter x Hunter. Just constantly getting his ass beat.

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u/fuckin_normie Mar 30 '24

Yeah honestly it's kinda tiring just seeing Mark getting his ass beat every episode

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u/ooglytoop7272 Mar 30 '24

You saying zenkai boost gave me such a big smile for some reason lol.

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u/dildodicks Invincidrip Apr 07 '24

he doesn't get zenkai boosts (otherwise he'd just destroy everyone including battle beast), he just has to train (off-screen, this isn't db for better or worse)