r/Invincible • u/mwthecool Omni-Mod • Mar 28 '24

Invincible [Episode Discussion] - S02E07 - I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE EPISODE DISCUSSION

Episode 7 - I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE

As Mark attempts to salvage his personal life, a new villain arrives, presenting Invincible with his greatest challenge yet. Donald grapples with his past.

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u/boltzmannman Mar 28 '24

even tho we literally saw what the Viltrumites did to Unopa and an alternate Earth earlier this season

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u/DuePerception6926 Mar 28 '24

If they didn’t resist things would be simpler

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u/Structor125 Mar 28 '24

"But can't you just, you know... let them conquer you?"
"Holy shit, I never thought of that!"

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u/nahPNW Mar 28 '24

"yeah lets let the space Nazis do whatever they want with us. i'm sure an empire known for purging the weak are very trustworthy folk"

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u/Not_Another_Usernam Mar 30 '24

Yeah, but at least the space trains would run on time and we'd all be wearing Hugo Boss. Have you considered that? What are a few million/billion lives in the name of iconic uniforms?

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u/Thrallov Mar 29 '24

let is strong word when you face army of supermans and you can't do shit vs them

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u/yuvalnavon2710 Apr 01 '24

But say they didnt purge the weak so violently. Like actually imagine a group of space gods capable of singlehandedly keeping a planet safe, healthy, and functioning. Would it be wrong for them to expect full cooperation? Anissa has a point, if not for the viltrumites murderous tendencies

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u/Curious_Umpire9247 Mar 30 '24

unless you're totally OK withe their doctrine.

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u/NAINOA- Apr 04 '24

Interesting you use the Nazi comparison. Would you the nations and peoples that surrendered when invaded by the Wehrmacht? Like Denmark for example? Would it have been better for them to resist during Operation Weserübung? What about France or Poland? Both countries ultimately surrendered to the Axis powers.

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u/Apotatos May 08 '24

Yea well if everybody surrendered like France and Poland, wir würden im Deutsch Sprachen, so there's gotta be a good reason to fight back in the end.

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u/Abedeus Mar 28 '24

Apparently that was Invincible's answer in every single universe except the "main" one.

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u/Successful-Run7573 Mar 28 '24

Why do people say it was every universe it was only ever “most” of them

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u/GreatKnightJ Shrinking Rae Mar 29 '24

And most of the ones Angstrom Levy has seen, at that.

My headcanon is that Mark actually says no in most of the universes that he exists in but Levy has randomly (just due to bad luck) encountered an unrepresentative sample of universes where he's a total prick.

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u/Ejecto_Seato Mar 29 '24

Or Levy isn’t a dispassionate, disinterested observer of those “multiverses,” he’s affecting the outcome in them and the “main” timeline is the only true representation of what would happen without his interference.

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u/Abedeus Mar 28 '24

I thought it was the only one? Not sure which episode that was stated in.

Still, even then majority of them were in favor of helping Omni-Man.

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u/Tough-Interaction485 Allen the Alien Mar 28 '24

nah angstrom said it was most not all others

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u/MyARhold30Shots Mar 29 '24

I still don't know how he could make that claim when there are infinite universes. How is there a "most" of infinity? And how many universes did he check to come to that conclusion lol

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u/Mule27 Mar 30 '24

Some infinities are bigger than other infinities. It’s possible that “infinite” universes are not a continuum of one infinity but a set of multiple infinities. Some things being impossible as they aren’t in one of the sets. The “Mark sides with Omni-Man” set could be a bigger infinity than the “Mark resists Omni-Man and survives” set.

A quick way to see that some infinities are bigger than others is: Set A is an infinite set of all positive integers, Set B is a set of all Integers. Set A must be smaller than Set B even though they’re both infinite because Set B contains Set A and also contains every negative integer.

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u/Independent-Highway2 Mar 30 '24

I think you are misremembering what you learned about infinity. Some infinities are bigger than each other, but I don't think that is what they mean. THe different sizes of infinity are not just different levels of exponential growth which seems to be what you are modeling. If you would permit me to make a rather rash assumption, you may need to watch that Vsauce video again.

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u/Tough-Interaction485 Allen the Alien Mar 30 '24

id assume its just the universes of the alternate angstroms he brought for the brain thing, not like he had infinite angstroms

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u/Apotatos May 08 '24

How is there a "most" of infinity

If you had an infinite dough ball, most of infinity would be flour and the rest would be water; infinity has to have structure in order to have statistics of some sort, which is why the sum of 1+1-1+1-1 is different from 1+1+1+1-1-1-1-1; infinity is weird like that.

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u/i_m_shadyyyy Mar 28 '24

Found Nolan’s reddit account everyone

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u/KingOfTheUzbeks Mar 28 '24

daddy only hits you because you cry

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u/vangstampede Mar 28 '24

That's literally the kind of shit abusers say.

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u/XanderJayNix Mar 28 '24

Your comment gives "Why are you making me do this?" vibes.

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u/Goluxas Mar 30 '24

Colonizer talk.

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u/Abedeus Mar 28 '24

Well, that alternate Earth was a result of people resisting them. Chicago, but on global scale.

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u/1amtheWalrusAMA Mar 29 '24

If the promises of a better society only manifest when all 8 billion people on Earth fall in perfect lock step then the promises are a lie.

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u/WR810 Mar 29 '24 edited Mar 29 '24

Said differently: a cage of gold is still a cage. Mark said it in a corny way but he's right when he said "maybe humanity isn't perfect but we need to make our own decisions even if they're wrong".

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u/Significant_Hornet Mar 29 '24

Stop resisting us conquering you, we’re the good guys!

…Right

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u/bell37 Mar 29 '24

Technically it wasn’t “Viltrumites” but single Viltrumite and his hybrid-human son.

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u/5am281 Robot Mar 28 '24

We saw how Ep 1 of season 2 opened up

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u/Jack_Jaws Mar 28 '24

Not to mention what they did to themselves. Who’s to say they won’t kill as many humans as possible until “only the strongest survive”

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u/Kyliems1010 Mar 28 '24

And as if we don’t have real life earth history on why colonization is bad 

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u/Willythechilly Mar 28 '24

I guess it boils down to "everything would be fine/better...until suddenly it's not"