Invincible [COMIC SPOILER Discussion] - S02E06 - It's Not That Simple

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Episode 6 - It's Not That Simple

After two challenging missions, The Guardians of the Globe struggle to work as a team. Meanwhile, Mark tries to balance his hero duties, personal relationships, and his future as a college student.

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[u/False_Adhesiveness40]

Yes, but Rae's death should have been the first major new Gaurdian death. That scene was tense, batshit insane, and it felt final. It added weight and stakes that this episode just took back.

[u/TSM- → u/False_Adhesiveness40]

She ​may come b​ack only to meet h​er end later, and th​is is a way of keep​ing co​mic re​aders on their toe​s. The sh​ow has to throw in so​me wil​dcards. As much as I love the c​om​ic, and how it staye​d true to for​m, the show is not really suspe​nseful for the big​gest fans without feeling like som​ething differe​nt could happe​n.

And they really should build that feeling up, for the invincihe​ads. Follow​ing the or​iginal too muc​h mea​ns it is too predic​​table. If it just keeps doing that, then I a​lready kn​ow what hap​pens next an​yway, and it lack​s suspe​nse.

[u/False_Adhesiveness40 → u/TSM-]

Have you ever watched an anime show that stays almost 100% true to the Manga. Some people love that. I'm one of those. So I can't say I agree but that's ok.

[u/lewd_necron → u/False_Adhesiveness40]

eh if it stayed 100% true, just read the original. Mediums are different, and its okay for those mediums to change things to better represent the material. Like I wouldnt expect a stage play to be exactly like a book. It would be a shitty play.

Coming from a guy that watches a lot of anime, anime-only scenes used to be garbage, but recently (like past decade) anime only scenes honestly have been pretty good and often add some nice additional context to shows.

[u/False_Adhesiveness40 → u/lewd_necron]

Yeah, hard disagree. Some people want to see their favorite comics/books/stories come to life. Most people think television is the better medium. It's just too expensive for more creaters until they have already succeeded.

I don't think I'd want anything to stay 100% identical because every show has flaws and things I dislike, but major story beats should stay the same. Unless it's something I personally don't like, of course.

[u/lewd_necron → u/False_Adhesiveness40]

So you don't want it 100% identical.

Your contradicting yourself in your next comment.

[u/False_Adhesiveness40 → u/lewd_necron]

I'm not contradicting myself at all.

I'm just saying everyone is going to have something they don't like even in their favorite shows or entertainment. It's more an exception than a rule.

As a whole, I prefer no change over a little here and there, depending on how much I like the original story. Of course, I wouldn't mind if they changed my least favorite scene in an entire book or comic. Who would?

[u/lewd_necron → u/False_Adhesiveness40]

That is a contradiction from your first comment.

This current comment is agreeing with what I said.

The reality is some scenes that work really well in a comic, need to be slightly displayed differently to work in an animation. Or even in the live action.

This shouldn't be a controversial opinion. And there's a lot of real life examples of works deviating from the original material and still working. Lord of the rings. The godfather was better than it's original material. The novelizations of Star wars are also pretty interesting in their own right. If you want something more recent the live-action one piece.

[u/False_Adhesiveness40 → u/lewd_necron]

"eh, if it stayed 100% true, just read the original"

"Like I wouldn't expect a stage play to be exactly like the book. It would be a shitty play."

This is where most of my disagreement lies.

Everything can be improved, but if things are kept the same, that doesn't make it bad.

I'm not saying good or even better things can't come out of changes in the source material. I'm just saying I normally prefer accuracy. Changes things can be be major risk/reward. It needs to be in a tasteful manner.

[u/lewd_necron → u/False_Adhesiveness40]

Yes.

I can't think of a single anime or cartoon based off a comic that doesn't change something.

Hell this even applies to video games. The worst remakes are the ones that basically do nothing and charge you another $60.

[u/False_Adhesiveness40 → u/lewd_necron]

See, I find I mostly agree with you except for that last part once again. Change doesn't equal bad or good, and no change doesn't mean bad or good either.

The only thing the Demon's Souls Remake changed was some quality of life improvements. The game was almost identical. It's one of my favorite games ever.

[u/lewd_necron → u/False_Adhesiveness40]

Go read a book.

And then directly do that in a stage play.

It's going to be terrible.

There's a lot of work in translating to different mediums.

Even in animation. A comic is a still picture. There's a lot that needs to go on in between the "panels" for it to actually work.

The story is just going to be different when it's a continuous video compared to a set of images

[u/False_Adhesiveness40 → u/lewd_necron]

Yes, some things can be hard to translate. But comics/manga is probably the easiest it's going to get. You can keep things very accurate when translating comics to tv.

[u/lewd_necron → u/False_Adhesiveness40]

Yeah it's the easiest and yet they still have to change at least some parts of it. Even for the best shows.

The more important idea is to keep the intention of the original work rather than every single detail.