r/Invincible • u/RevolutionaryGrape11 • Dec 16 '23

Do you think the Guardians Of The Globe could have won if Red Rush had stuck to just bailing the others out of death and hadn't attacked himself, or do you think everyone was doomed no matter what? They did put up a great fight even after he was removed, so I think it's plausible they could have. DISCUSSION

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u/Ezenthar THINK, MARK! THINK! Dec 16 '23

Part of me wonders how her powers work, like can she keep up beintg intangible for a really long time or does it use up considerable energy/resources? If she could only do so for say like, a few solid minutes at most before becoming exhausted and needing to recharge, Nolan could essentially stalk her until she became vulnerable.

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u/ChemicalBasis9838 Dec 16 '23

By that time she could expose him, and how can he stalk her when she can just phase and go anywhere in the world probably underground

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u/megrimlock88 Dec 16 '23

If it is a resource drain I don’t think any sane person will be trying to phase through the planet or floor when they run the risk of getting rendered vulnerable while passing through something and getting stuck or worse

Also you cannot just phase through a planet you’d end up permanently stuck at the core with no way out since the force of gravity would only get stronger the closer you get to it

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u/M_LeGendre Dec 16 '23 edited Dec 16 '23

Actually, gravity at the center of the earth is zero. The strongest point is halfway from the surface to the core, after that it starts getting weaker and becomes zero at the center, because you are being pulled with the same strength in all directions, so it cancels out

ETA: Wikipedia has a cool graph showing the value of gravity at different depths, it only gets around 20% higher at maxpoint

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_of_Earth#/media/File:EarthGravityPREM.svg

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u/megrimlock88 Dec 16 '23

Damn that’s fascinating also my bad I had no clue earlier

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u/Some_Ebb_2921 Dec 16 '23

So.. Hollow earth theory is BACK on the table, baby!!!

Now if I could only blend that together with flat earth...

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u/ManaMagestic Dec 17 '23

Empty Box Earth Theory. You're welcome.

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u/AwkwardInitiative188 Dec 21 '23

Read that in David Koechners voice.

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u/abouttogivebirth Dec 17 '23

A flat earth that is just the top layer of existence, "hollow earth" one level below, then some other mythical lands eventually leading to the 9 rings of hell.

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u/nepo5000 Allen the Alien Dec 18 '23

So cylinder earth theory

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u/HeliumBurn Dec 16 '23

To be extra pedantic, if you really could phase through solid matter and incur no drag, You would go into orbit around the planet's center of mass.

Assuming you didn't drop from the bottom of the Marianas Trench, and you can hold your breath a really long time. Then the odds are good you would end up above ground level on a subsequent orbit.

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u/MangaVentFreak13 Dec 16 '23

No gravity, just pressure. Still dangerous.

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u/tenshi39 Dec 17 '23

wait, you mean Godzilla's Hollow Earth is actually scientifically accurate gravity?

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u/TrueHero808 Dec 16 '23

There’s no way it exerts 0 gravity how is that possible. Literally everything with mass exerts gravity.

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u/M_LeGendre Dec 16 '23

It's not that it exerts 0 gravity, but that the resulting force is 0. Imagine you are between 2 objects with the same mass, at the same distance from you - both objects will exert the same force on you in opposite, and it will cancel out, so you will feel 0 resulting gravity

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u/TrueHero808 Dec 16 '23

makes sense thank you

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u/Extermindatass Dec 17 '23

Essentially, you'd be trapped though.

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u/TrueHero808 Dec 17 '23

nah i would just leave but yeah most people probably would be tho

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u/dontfoolmetrice Dec 20 '23

Time to train like vegeta only 20 percent bet