r/Invincible • u/RevolutionaryGrape11 • Dec 16 '23

Do you think the Guardians Of The Globe could have won if Red Rush had stuck to just bailing the others out of death and hadn't attacked himself, or do you think everyone was doomed no matter what? They did put up a great fight even after he was removed, so I think it's plausible they could have. DISCUSSION

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u/Monkey_King291 Duct Tape Man Dec 16 '23

Honestly they definitely could've, Red Rush and Green Ghost on support would've helped them a lot, War Woman and Immortal wounded Nolan pretty badly, so if they all had better teamwork they definitely would've won

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u/Tyrchak Dec 16 '23

If green ghost and red rush play defense war woman and immortal can't do shit on offense. Their only advantage was numbers but Immortal and War woman get out competed in every category and they are the only 2 strong enough to bother him. We saw multiple viltrumites fighting while torn apart. One was fighting with he's entire stomach cut open. Viltrumites don't lose wars of attrition. If you can't deal a final blow they will destroy themselves to beat you.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '23

Aquarius managed to pin Nolan with his water blast things with enough force to push him back, that's a decent ranged threat that would still force him to be on the defensive. That could definately create an opening for him to get grappled by Martianman and then everyone jump him instead of only War Woman and Immortal.

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u/Most_Ad2225 Dec 16 '23

I do think there’s a difference between damage in combat and where it is sustained. Take for example, a stab victim playing defence, if they are cut in the abdomen or stabbed, there’s not a guarantee they will go down right away, and so they could continue fighting. Now someone who sustains multiple large damaging blows to the head, like in the case of Nolan in his fight with the guardians, this is more evident and likely to cause cumulative damage as the fight Carrie’s on. Also consider that Nolan had taken substantial blunt force damage to his chest area where his heart is as well. It’s fair to assume this damage would be more impactful without it looking like it on the outside, especially when it did lead to Nolan ending up in a coma.

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u/Tyrchak Dec 16 '23

Dawg the viltrumite didn't get stabbed he was holding all of his internal organs in his hand and had already taken hits from Omniman and mark