r/Invincible • u/RevolutionaryGrape11 • Dec 16 '23

Do you think the Guardians Of The Globe could have won if Red Rush had stuck to just bailing the others out of death and hadn't attacked himself, or do you think everyone was doomed no matter what? They did put up a great fight even after he was removed, so I think it's plausible they could have. DISCUSSION

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u/megrimlock88 Dec 16 '23

If it is a resource drain I don’t think any sane person will be trying to phase through the planet or floor when they run the risk of getting rendered vulnerable while passing through something and getting stuck or worse

Also you cannot just phase through a planet you’d end up permanently stuck at the core with no way out since the force of gravity would only get stronger the closer you get to it

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u/M_LeGendre Dec 16 '23 edited Dec 16 '23

Actually, gravity at the center of the earth is zero. The strongest point is halfway from the surface to the core, after that it starts getting weaker and becomes zero at the center, because you are being pulled with the same strength in all directions, so it cancels out

ETA: Wikipedia has a cool graph showing the value of gravity at different depths, it only gets around 20% higher at maxpoint

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_of_Earth#/media/File:EarthGravityPREM.svg

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u/megrimlock88 Dec 16 '23

Damn that’s fascinating also my bad I had no clue earlier

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u/Some_Ebb_2921 Dec 16 '23

So.. Hollow earth theory is BACK on the table, baby!!!

Now if I could only blend that together with flat earth...

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u/ManaMagestic Dec 17 '23

Empty Box Earth Theory. You're welcome.

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u/AwkwardInitiative188 Dec 21 '23

Read that in David Koechners voice.

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u/abouttogivebirth Dec 17 '23

A flat earth that is just the top layer of existence, "hollow earth" one level below, then some other mythical lands eventually leading to the 9 rings of hell.

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u/nepo5000 Allen the Alien Dec 18 '23

So cylinder earth theory

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u/HeliumBurn Dec 16 '23

To be extra pedantic, if you really could phase through solid matter and incur no drag, You would go into orbit around the planet's center of mass.

Assuming you didn't drop from the bottom of the Marianas Trench, and you can hold your breath a really long time. Then the odds are good you would end up above ground level on a subsequent orbit.

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u/MangaVentFreak13 Dec 16 '23

No gravity, just pressure. Still dangerous.

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u/tenshi39 Dec 17 '23

wait, you mean Godzilla's Hollow Earth is actually scientifically accurate gravity?

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u/TrueHero808 Dec 16 '23

There’s no way it exerts 0 gravity how is that possible. Literally everything with mass exerts gravity.

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u/M_LeGendre Dec 16 '23

It's not that it exerts 0 gravity, but that the resulting force is 0. Imagine you are between 2 objects with the same mass, at the same distance from you - both objects will exert the same force on you in opposite, and it will cancel out, so you will feel 0 resulting gravity

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u/TrueHero808 Dec 16 '23

makes sense thank you

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u/Extermindatass Dec 17 '23

Essentially, you'd be trapped though.

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u/TrueHero808 Dec 17 '23

nah i would just leave but yeah most people probably would be tho

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u/dontfoolmetrice Dec 20 '23

Time to train like vegeta only 20 percent bet

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u/ChemicalBasis9838 Dec 16 '23

Not saying she should phase through the earth’s diameter I’m saying she should phase into the ground and come out somewhere else where Nolan can’t find her, shouldn’t be that hard just out of sight he doesn’t have xray vision or superheating to be able to track someone down like homelander or Superman

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u/megrimlock88 Dec 16 '23

I’d say that’s fair except the guardians hq is shown to be pretty secluded so on foot is a terrible idea and using a place is a one way trip to getting smashed by Omni man

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u/GrimResistance Dec 17 '23

Well green ghost can fly, possibly they could fly under the ground?

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u/AngryNerdBird Dec 17 '23

Except he could just plow through the ground after her.

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u/666Emil666 Dec 16 '23

You wouldn't get stuck at the core, earth is not a black hole. It'd take like 8 minutes to go from one pole to the other, your acceleration and speed would increase until you reach the core, then they would start to decrease until you reach the other side at exactly the same speed you were when you started the fall (assuming no friction)

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u/ShwiftyShmeckles Dec 16 '23

Gravity wouldn't let you fall the whole way through the earth.

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u/TheGupper Dec 16 '23

According to conservation of energy, yes it would. You start out with potential energy while you're at the surface, as you reach the center all that potential energy has been converted to kinetic, then back to the same potential as you emerge at the surface on the other side

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u/AlphaCureBumHarder Dec 16 '23

That would get you to the center of the earth. You would need to provide propulsion to leave the increasing gravitational pull of the earth as more of it is behind you.

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '23

Nope. The earth isn't perfectly spherical and doesn't have a perfectly even distribution of mass, so there's wiggle room.

But assuming it was both, you would keep speeding up to you got to the center, then keep your momentum and speed and slow down until you got to the other side with the same speed you started with: 0.

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u/666Emil666 Dec 16 '23

And where did all the kinetic energy go? Have you discovered a flaw in the foundations of physics and are therefore deserving of a Nobel prize? Or could you just be wrong about this one because you haven't thought about it

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u/dvasquez93 Dec 16 '23

In a vacuum it would.

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u/chancesarent Dec 17 '23

A villain in Batman Beyond met that fate.

https://dcau.fandom.com/wiki/Sneak_Peek

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u/notchoosingone Dec 17 '23

they run the risk of getting rendered vulnerable while passing through something and getting stuck or worse

https://i.imgur.com/xjFA1hM.png

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '23

Can't she fly?

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u/Orgasmic_interlude Dec 17 '23

I think…. We have to presume that all phasing powers must sidestep gravity because yeah you would be dropping pretty fast after even a split second.