r/Invincible • u/mwthecool Omni-Mod • Nov 24 '23

Invincible [Episode Discussion] - S02E04 - It's Been a While EPISODE DISCUSSION

Episode 4 - It's Been a While!

Mark answers the call to save an alien species, but the mission has unexpected personal consequences.

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u/mmcintoshmerc_88 Battle Beast Nov 24 '23 edited Nov 24 '23

No offence Cecil but, I could've told you this clone plan wasn't going to work. Read almost any comic ever Cecil! It never ends well!

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u/limelover420 Nov 24 '23

Is he a clone or a robot? I figured with the knife bending like that, it probably meant he was a robot with metalic bones just with flesh over it kinda like Schwarzaneggar in the Terminator films.

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u/Zaziel Nov 24 '23

I guess the question is: has he always been a robot?

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u/Knuc85 Nov 24 '23

This is what I was thinking. Is this Donald #2 or... #3? How about #20?

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u/princevince1113 Battle Beast Nov 24 '23

considering you can see bits of organic spine crumbling out of omni man’s hands after he kills donald, i’d say the donald that died was the flesh and blood original and s2 donald is either a robot with his memories or original donald with a 95% robot body

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u/HippieDogeSmokes Nov 24 '23

OG donald was completely disintegrated, but I wouldn’t be shocked if both were cyborgs. Like how the terminator has organics over a robot skeleton

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u/Calm-Tree-1369 Nov 24 '23

I'm guessing a cyborg clone with a metal endoskeleton, so similar to Terminator like you said.

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u/Status_Implement_757 Nov 24 '23

Nah not completely, his glasses only bend and cracked slightly

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u/torvaman Nov 24 '23

and why does cecil bring back donald? what makes donald so important that he needs to be replicated?

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '23

The guy teleports for fun and costs the taxpayers 5 million dollars each time he does it. He won't hold back when it comes to revive the people he values.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '23

Good assistants are hard to find. Cecil spared the hassle

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u/Mampt Nov 28 '23

That's pretty clearly the arc they're setting up for him, especially having him finding the glasses and start questioning himself right next to the Maulers cloning part. Their whole thing is they don't know who the clone is and who the original is (and in all likelihood, the original is lost to time and they're both clones of clones of clones). They didn't really have much of a story this episode, so it was more to set that up as a parallel to Donald where, like them, he starts to question if he's real or not and, again like them, probably has been replaced several times over

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u/chocho1111 Nov 30 '23

I think this one is the first robot Donald. First time we saw how Omni-Man killed him, by essentially breaking his spine. I don’t really think if he was a robot it would have affected him in a paralysing way, or Nolan would have made a remark on that. Also, it kinda makes sense: Cecil managed to find a man whom he can trust, gets the job done and doesn’t complain. Essentially the perfect soldier. Hard to replace that, unless…

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u/LurkerOnTheInternet Nov 24 '23

The knife bent so he's a cyborg. I bet his body was created with the technology of the crazy evil guy in S1, who turned innocent college kids into lobotomized cyborgs. Cecil was shown to have taken him in for his knowledge.

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u/Ecstatic_Deer Nov 24 '23

Nah, he's definitely not a robot. He bleeds after stabbing himself which was why he was relieved. He probably underwent an Allen situation. They cloned him to be stronger than an average human. They may have even used Mark's cells since they showed them testing Marks blood in S1.

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u/Edmontonthrw Nov 25 '23

He's relieved, but then they zoom in and show him being shocked, because the tip of the knife bent.

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u/Ecstatic_Deer Nov 25 '23

Yes, hence why I said, "they cloned him to be stronger than the average human". He bleeds so he knows he's real and alive, not a robot, but the knife is bent so there's still something very different about him that hasn't been revealed to us. I think it's possible they spliced Donald with Mark's viltrumite DNA, but it could also just be a genetic process similar to how Allen the alien was made.

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u/Glaive-Master_Hodir Nov 25 '23

I thought maybe they cloned him with some viltrumite blood.

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u/WinterH-e-ater Nov 24 '23

I think he is a clone and Cecil mixed some Invincible DNA to make him more powerful