r/Invincible • u/mwthecool Omni-Mod • Nov 24 '23

Invincible [Episode Discussion] - S02E04 - It's Been a While EPISODE DISCUSSION

Episode 4 - It's Been a While!

Mark answers the call to save an alien species, but the mission has unexpected personal consequences.

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u/Opone2002 Nov 24 '23

Mark was putting in work against Thula, did not expect him to fight that good against someone so strong.

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u/_GreenLotus_ Nov 24 '23

He has crazy untapped potential. The problem is that his human side holds him back

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u/Machizzy Nov 24 '23

We saw a little bit of what he is capable of in the very opening of the season, albeit implicitly. Him and his dad can destroy/take over a planet in a matter of weeks. We forget that even though they’re able to fly around earth in less then an hour it’s still a big fucking place with a lot of fucking infrastructure and super powered people. Even tho they’re not at risk of death fighting anything/one on their earth, still it’s probably akin to you and one other mate going to like a Lego convention filled with nothing but angry/scared kids and destroying the entire place while taking on all those 3-12y olds. Would probably still take more then a day which is the equivalent to this (based on absolutely nothing btw but it just felt like an good comparison)

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u/RogueYautja Super Dinosaur Nov 24 '23

That would be incredibly fun tho at the lego convention

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u/Machizzy Nov 24 '23

Did we just explain why Nolan went beserky in Chicago?

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u/reaperfan Nov 24 '23

IDK, you destroy all those lego buildings and inevitably you're gonna end up in a floor covered in the things. All someone would have to do to stop your rampage is take off your shoe lol

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u/Mouseanasia Nov 24 '23

And we've seen him completely lose his shit a few times in S1. When fighting Machinehead's Crew, when Eve was in Danger and he scared the crap out of Rex.

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u/mykeedee Nov 24 '23

Losing his shit didn't help much against the Lion guy though.

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u/PritX Nov 24 '23

Honestly alternate universe Mark seems pretty weak now considering main Mark without holding back fought a full on Viltrimite like that while alternate Mark was barely keeping up with Immortal.

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u/Clouthead2001 Nov 24 '23

Well to be fair, Immortal was keeping up with Nolan for a bit in their fight from s1ep7. Perhaps Immortal is just as strong as lower level Viltrimites, which Nolan clearly isn’t.

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u/Machizzy Nov 24 '23 edited Nov 24 '23

I feel like immortal is like viltrumite foot (float?) soldier level, even his powers indicate so. Immortal might literally be very similar to viltrumites in his genetic make up or whatever after he got blasted with that orb thing thousands of years ago (it was in a shot of I think season 1 , montage of his life, when the mailers Brought him back). But yeah OU (our universe) mark has something other marks don’t seem to have. Something…evil? Dark? A certain rage? Remember in season 1 there were like 1 or 2 moments during fights for example with the Flaxxans where he snapped and went super Sayan. Now this season he released some of his darkness with Darkwings sidek-apprentice. It might truly be a mental thing.

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u/AssMan_Rodrigues Nov 24 '23

Mark is Gohan basically

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u/SophisticatedBT Nov 26 '23

To make a VERY long story short

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u/TMDan92 Nov 24 '23

I’d argue the inverse could prove to be true.

It’s his not wanting to kill that holds him back.

When he really takes in the level of destruction the Vilts had caused, the death, that’s when he starts going sicko mode and arguably the rage is fuelled by his ability to empathise and therefore his humanity can be harnessed as a strength.

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u/ILoveRegenHealth Nov 24 '23

But wouldn't Thula have hundreds or thousands of years of combat experience that Mark has never had or seen? Also, wouldn't Thula being full-blooded 100% Viltrumite make her naturally stronger?

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u/Live-Zebra-5610 Nov 24 '23

See the other guy’s response to this comment

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u/MeMeTiger_ Omni-Man Nov 24 '23

Also, wouldn't Thula being full-blooded 100% Viltrumite make her naturally stronger?

Maybe humans and viltrumites are so similar to each other that Mark wouldn't be negatively affected by his human genes since his viltrumite ones take over almost completely.

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u/drac0nic180 Nov 25 '23

It’s not his “human side”, he’s practically exactly the same as a full viltrumite genetically, it’s his humanity, and his value for life that holds him back. Mark struggles to unhinge himself, he’s measured when fighting, not as brutal As his dad

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u/ilikepacificdaydream Nov 24 '23

I didn't realize, but has he really not killed anyone in the show? I mean not directly.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '23

They hint at his power in the first season against Battle Beast and Machine Head.

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u/bazinga4269 Nov 25 '23

He gonna go Berserk when he learn how they killed his Alien homie

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u/____Quetzal____ Nov 27 '23

So, Gohan lol

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u/Sweet_Zucchini_899 Nov 24 '23

I didn't know you had a reddit account Nolan!

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u/grokthis1111 Nov 24 '23

humanity and/or naivity, he's not really weaker than viltrumites.

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u/dildodicks Invincidrip Dec 28 '23

the human side is what gives him potential, unless you mean human as in conscience