r/Invincible • u/mwthecool Omni-Mod • Nov 17 '23

Invincible [Episode Discussion] - S02E03 - This Missive, This Machination! EPISODE DISCUSSION

Episode 3 - This Missive, This Machination!

Mark starts his college career, Debbie struggles with personal trauma, and Allen the Alien returns home to find a new threat facing the Coalition of Planets.

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u/Business_Reporter420 Nov 17 '23

It’s crazy how Allen turned out to be such a good-natured person despite being breeded into a fighting machine. Wish I could say the same about a villain in another fellow Amazon prime video superhero show

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u/LittleDoge246 Feb 24 '24

Kinda 2 reasons

  1. Homelander was not treated the way Allen was. It's clear that despite him being genetically engineered, he was still very much cared for, and he ends up in a good place later on in life too. Not only that, but unlike Homelander, he doesn't have to lie about who he is for anyone else's sake. He can freely be himself, which is something Homelander never could.

  2. Homelander isn't really a fighter. Allen has to put in work and training, and actually fight his enemies. This would give him a purpose, and a drive to get better and not get too cocky or be too risky. Homelander, on the other hand, is just kind of the strongest. Physically, he can kill anyone around him with ease. This is reflected in the fact he gets his ass beat by Soldier Boy, and even Queen Maeve, because they actually have combat experience. This would probably make Homelander's "purpose" as a hero kind of pointless. This means he's just a media personality at a certain point, and as a media personality, his personality is fake and doctored. He doesn't really have any purpose at all.

Idk if I'm off base here been a while since i watched The Boys and also I'm really tired lol. Just bored and felt like ranting on.

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u/ALTofDADAcnc Feb 24 '24

Homelander is a fascist monster bordering on a nazi. I wish Butcher had stuck with the plan and blasted him apart

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u/LittleDoge246 Feb 25 '24

Never said he wasn't. God no, of course he is. Just pointing out most of his horrible traits come from his upbringing. It doesn't excuse any of it, he's not really a victim of circumstance since plenty of other heroes wnded up more or less OK, but it does explain why he became so mentally ill.

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u/ALTofDADAcnc Feb 25 '24

It's true he was bought up almost isolated emotionally.

The Dr did say that.

You're right

I just really wish the show makers had stuck with that earlier series vibe instead of sliding backwards into the bullshit of "killing the bad guy mass murderer makes you just as bad" liberal horseshit you know? I. Just wish they'd kept butcher true to form.

And now... That raping mass murderer is raising an even more powerful version of himself.