r/Invincible • u/mwthecool Omni-Mod • Nov 17 '23

Invincible [Episode Discussion] - S02E03 - This Missive, This Machination! EPISODE DISCUSSION

Episode 3 - This Missive, This Machination!

Mark starts his college career, Debbie struggles with personal trauma, and Allen the Alien returns home to find a new threat facing the Coalition of Planets.

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u/Basic_Loquat_9344 Nov 18 '23

Or maybe the subtext is that Cecil knew that’s a useless argument and an order was his only shot… lack of “obvious” writing isn’t bad writing.

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u/bbpopulardemand Nov 18 '23

It is when a character who should be pointing out the obvious doesn't for no rational reason. And then you have a bunch of people on the internet coming up with all sorts of unsupported theories for why not...

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u/Basic_Loquat_9344 Nov 18 '23

It really makes perfectly logical sense. The back and fourth of “what if he’s lying?” And the obvious “what if he’s not” IS the obvious train of thought, Cecil isn’t an idiot, so he didn’t bother. It’s not an unsupported theory, it’s common sense.

If you’re trying to make the argument that good writing is characters pointing out of the obvious even when they’re smarter than that… idk what to tell you except you’re just wrong.

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u/bbpopulardemand Nov 18 '23

Except you're projecting and inserting you're own interpretation into a scenario that never happened. Even if I were to give you that Cecil were "smart" enough to predict how the conversation went, Mark clearly wouldn't have answered "what if it's not" which is evidenced by the fact that he was completely taken aback by the reveal of it being a lie upon arriving at the planet. I get that you're desperate to defend everything about this show, even a single instance of poor writing but there is no amount of inserting unwarranted "subtext" that justifies the characters not considering the most logical of scenarios.

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u/Basic_Loquat_9344 Nov 18 '23 edited Nov 18 '23

I don’t give a damn with this show is good or bad dawg. Even if he entertained the possibility it was a lie, he’s too hung up on his guilt to care, that much was made clear, no interpretation needed, and of course he was taken back by his father being there?

It’s a weird thing to get hung up on and people aren’t purely logical beings, writing them as such WOULD be bad writing.

We can just agree to disagree.