r/Invincible • u/mwthecool Omni-Mod • Nov 17 '23

Invincible [Episode Discussion] - S02E03 - This Missive, This Machination! EPISODE DISCUSSION

Episode 3 - This Missive, This Machination!

Mark starts his college career, Debbie struggles with personal trauma, and Allen the Alien returns home to find a new threat facing the Coalition of Planets.

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u/silverhammer96 Nov 17 '23

I feel so bad for Debbie! Also so strange how Olga and Debbie are so close and seemingly Aquarius’s wife, yet never knew Green Ghost’s husband. Maybe he’ll take up the mantle? And on the discussion of spouses, did anyone get the vibe in season 1 that War Woman and her business associate were closer than just coworkers?

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u/MichaeltheSpikester The Astounding Wolf-Man Nov 17 '23

I get he's grieving but he was a dick to tell Debbie not to come back to the group and cast her out (How dare cast someone out in need of mental help, nice move asshole). Whatever happened to not judging others on their relatives or spouses? Don't think people would know better? He clearly sees how devastated Debbie is.

His fault for even inviting her for drinks in the first place.

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u/Deadpwner99 Nov 17 '23

While very much an absolute massive piece of shit
His reasoning was that it wouldn't be a safe space for himself knowing the wife of the man who killed his wife was actively coming there and sharing this safe space with him
I mean i can kinda get that however that doesn't mean he can do what he did and especially not say what he said in way that he said it.

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u/MichaeltheSpikester The Astounding Wolf-Man Nov 17 '23

I mean its not like Omni-Man is suddenly gonna show up and kill them up out of nowhere wherever Debbie goes.

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u/Stovoy Nov 17 '23

They don’t mean a literal safe space. Emotionally.

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u/MichaeltheSpikester The Astounding Wolf-Man Nov 17 '23

But at the same time he's the one who broke the rules. Guy should be booted out of the group.

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u/Mysterious-Part-8443 Nov 17 '23

Unfortunately, no one will want Debbie there if they find out who her husband is.

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u/MichaeltheSpikester The Astounding Wolf-Man Nov 17 '23

Whatever happened to not judging others on other relatives?

What they think Omni-Man is gonna show up everywhere she goes? Lol.

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u/Mysterious-Part-8443 Nov 17 '23

I'm not judging her but this is going to be the sentiment of characters that don't know the full story.

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u/Deadpwner99 Nov 17 '23

not like that.
a safe space to be open and vulnerable and to allow healing which is alot harder with someone around who was together romantically for so long with the individual that literally is the source of your grief

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u/MichaeltheSpikester The Astounding Wolf-Man Nov 17 '23

Ok gotcha. See what you're saying now.

Even then, as someone said, he's the one who broke the rules in the first place. So what right does he have to say she shouldn't come back? Should be booted out of the group.

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u/Deadpwner99 Nov 17 '23

he has no right...
I literally stated that in my original comment
he doesn't really have much of a leg to stand on
For the organisation his concern and discomfort would be valid and absolutely something they would have to take into consideration however that doesn't mean they would automatically side in favour of him
Points against him would be that of course he broke the rules and his incredibly shitty response even if it was driven by irrational feelings and grief

In my opinion if he genuinely wanted the best shot of having her kicked out of the group he should have kept the final comment to himself and instead talked privately to the organisers and tell them about this and point out that he is a longer time member, whose partner is victim to the other members partner who is also actually not even dead. At that point its up to the organisers to decide but that drastically boosts his chances of getting what he wants

Although what he more likely wanted was just to hurt her like her husband hurt him