r/FluentInFinance • u/Peace_And_Happiness_ • 9d ago

You Disagree? Discussion/ Debate

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u/OcclusalEmbrasure 8d ago

And how much is that?

I find it curious that you say “but he does a good job and deserves a tip.” It sounds like you put a qualifier on it.

If said barber does a poor job, shouldn’t you still pay them a living wage?

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u/cuhdeee 8d ago

Not sure what your argument is though, I don’t make the price for the haircut? Lol I just have too abide by that price and if I really like the cut I’ll give him some extra, I’m sure he’ll do more haircuts then just me, so why should that bourdon come down on me, I just need a hair cut.

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u/OcclusalEmbrasure 8d ago

You buy labor just as any other employer.

You pay them for the labor of cutting your hair. If you don’t pay them a living wage, you are exploiting them. Regardless, of who set the price, you are either complicit in exploitation or being blind to your own hypocrisy.

You should pay a living wage if you hold true to your standards. Because if you say you can determine if someone’s work is worth a living wage, then you have no ground to say someone else doesn’t.

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u/cuhdeee 8d ago

Bro at I’m a customer not a fucker employer, he runs the business with his wife lmao I wouldn’t have too tell you this whole thing, well cause I have reason too but I’m sure he’s doing fine for himself, been cutting my hair for 15 years + always does great, and has many employees on payroll, I’m sure he makes more then what I said for sure, that’s just in cuts for himself lol and I’m most likely being modest, remember smart guy, the hair cut I get is $50 not every hair cut, and not also including the fact it’s a damn salon as well, you don’t know everything and every situation my guy lmao If he “couldn’t make a living” he would’ve been packed up many years ago and not cutting my hair and many others in such a populated city with a lot of competition

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u/OcclusalEmbrasure 8d ago edited 8d ago

Now you’re making a red herring.

It doesn’t matter how well off that person is. You basically said you determine if his work is worth a livable wage. And that regardless of work put in, he may or may not be paid depending on whether he did a good job.

An employer is also a customer. An employer buys labor from the open market. Just as you buy labor in the open market for a haircut.

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u/nCubed21 8d ago

Looks like someone doesnt know what a red herring is.

You can work harder and accomplish less. Work is definitely a results based pay.

But isn't that the exploitation he's talking about?

People work efficiently and aren't rewarded more for better work performed because they are all minimum wage workers.

That should be the end of the discussion.