r/FluentInFinance • u/The-Lucky-Investor • 11d ago

“Medicare for All” would save the U.S $5.1 Trillion over 10 years Discussion/ Debate

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/11/30/easy-pay-something-costs-less-new-study-shows-medicare-all-would-save-us-51-trillion
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u/effdubbs 11d ago

I don’t know if this claim or its math are accurate. What I do know is this: US healthcare is in crisis. I’m a nurse practitioner and I have never seen turnover like this before, especially of physicians. The workload and environment are untenable. Systems are crumbling, yet money continues to be extracted. Patients and workers are not getting what they need.

Another thing I know, patients wait here too, sometimes for over a year, depending on the complaint and specialty. The argument to keep our system as is because patients wait in single payor systems is simply not a good one.

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u/IbegTWOdiffer 11d ago

Do you believe paying nurses less would somehow ease the staffing issues? The argument against a single payer system like in Canada, is valid, has always been valid, and always will be valid. Healthcare sucks in Canada. Wait times are terrible for anything other than acute care. Pay for providers is low which is why you get a lot of immigrant providers from places like India, where as in the US you get immigrant providers from places like Canada...

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u/leafscitypackersfan 10d ago

Just want to chime in here real quick. I live in Canada and qas diagnosed with cancer a couple years ago and it progressed to stage 4 about 6 months ago. My Healthcare has been A+. Literally no complaints. I haven't had to pay a dime either.

I'm in multiple forums for the type of cancer that I have and probably every 4 out of 5 posts are people from the states looking for advice on how to afford drugs or pay hospital bills. It's awful. Meanwhile the only bill I ever get is for parking. I'm incredibly Thankful that I don't have to worry about finances during all this.

Healthcare Def has its issues here, very short staffed but overall it's nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be.

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u/IbegTWOdiffer 10d ago edited 10d ago

I lived in Canada for a couple decades, my family suffered with Canadian healthcare for serious things like strokes, cancer, heart attacks, etc... If it had been in the US, we would have filed a malpractice suit, but in Canada, just smile and wave.

EDIT: I'm glad you had a good experience and it went well for you! It went terribly for my family.