r/FluentInFinance 29d ago

Wealth inequality in America: beliefs, perceptions and reality. Discussion/ Debate

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What do Americans think good wealth distribution looks like; what they think actual American wealth inequality looks like; and what American wealth inequality actually is like.

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u/Downtown_Feedback665 29d ago

Fellow centrist here, believe this video perfectly explains the chasm that is our two sided political system. Where people on both sides think they’re right and compassionate.

Most people can tell that democrats are the best on most if not all social issues, think we need more taxes to pay for more social services.

Republicans don’t like paying taxes because many poor folks that are on the bottom scale of that video feel squeezed for every dime they pay in tax. Rich republicans obviously don’t want to give up their wealth to the state.

Republicans want tax cuts to cut revenues and force capitol hill to spend smarter to fix root cause issues, democrats want to throw money at every problem thinking that that will actually fix things.

Meanwhile we spend $0.60 per dollar of federal taxes to fund the military industrial complex to go do things like fund genocide.

As a centrist, I wish we would zero base budget every dime on the federal level. Figure out a way towards fiscal responsibility as a nation, and figure out a way forward that works for all Americans like the ideal chart said.

With all the good stuff like civil rights for all and bodily autonomy and the right to choose along the way, and no war and genocide would be nice. However, neither candidate is doing anything remotely close to what I would like to see happen.

I’m in the middle poor section, and I wish we would all start hating each other less and hate that one rich ass hole more.

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u/Cory123125 29d ago

Dude, what? Literally all of the republican messaging is about hurting people.

Occasionally someone will pay lip service to the opposite, but its rah rah these or those people are bad.

I mean just look at ... everything trump says, and its the trump party now, unmistakably.

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u/Downtown_Feedback665 29d ago

Idk about you, but I’ve met a lot of never Trump republicans. And if you think Biden is a good candidate, you’re out of your mind. We are fully funding two wars and one is a genocide of children all while the wealth gap is greater than ever and everyone is getting squeezed.

My vote is probably going to RFK and I don’t even like the dude. But he may set a precedent of an “independent” making it on the ballot in all 50 states and maybe next time through, centrist people can organize and maybe materially do something about the duopoly that is razing this country.

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u/major_mejor_mayor 29d ago

If they claim to be a "never Trump Republican" but vote for Republicans then they are liars and are simply deluding themselves.

Trump/ MAGA is the Republican party now, there is no separating the two as it currently stands.

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u/Downtown_Feedback665 28d ago

You’re buying into a narrative that isn’t actually real. Go outside and talk to people. I work in tech and the vast majority of republicans at my company voted for Hillary and Biden. They are still republicans and hate most if not all democratic policies. But always hated Trump.

Stop listening to left wing media telling you how right wing people feel, and maybe go talk to some right wing people.

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u/Downtown_Feedback665 28d ago edited 28d ago

I said I didn’t like him and I’m afraid you may be the one not reading enough.

Biden will make it harder for asylum seekers after creating refugees in two foreign lands

95 billion to Ukraine and Israel

1 in 4 Americans see both Trump and Biden unfavorably.

Gotten from the DHS, NPR, and Pew. Not right wing news.

Democrats somehow think that a documents trial that’s upgraded to a felony is the card they have to play. When in reality, the political calculus of the trial was severely flawed for democrats regardless of the outcome. If he wins, it’s a witch-hunt. If he loses, it’s lawfare. All while getting more free press just like 2016.

Meanwhile the judge presiding over the case donated money to democratic political campaigns, and his daughter works in the Biden administration. All while Trump has gotten these slaps on the wrist LONG BEFORE he was president many times over. If we were going to try him for something, it should’ve been Jan 6, but we didn’t. All this did was if you already hated Trump, you got more evidence to feed that belief. For everyone else undecided, apolitical, independent, it garnered support for him.

And if you think democrats are actually ameliorating the wealth gap I genuinely feel sorry for you. You’ve bought into the narrative of one head of a two-headed snake. Acting as if democrats and republicans are vastly different when really they will continue to hoard power and have you fight about absolute nonsense in order to distract you from the fact that if we cut all of the defense budget today, we wouldn’t meet our interest obligations on the national debt.

WE WOULDNT MEET THE INTEREST ON NATIONAL DEBT IF WE CUT ALL OF DEFENSE SPENDING. Do you understand this situation? The fact that this is a dying empire and people want to talk about abortion rights or crypto or trans rights or the southern border, and nobody wants to talk about the fact that we’ll either have to be taxed to 100% for every person, or cut social security, Medicare, and defense spending drastically.

You’re under a rock and can’t read the temperature of the room. I never wanted Trump to be president but people like you will end up pushing him back into office. Good luck alienating undecided voters.