[Marks] There is no market for Zach Lavine. They are trying to give him away and attach a first round pick. I’ve been told that by multiple, multiple people.

[u/SappyGilmore]

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[u/Davetron-3030]

A fully unprotected 2025 pick has my attention

[u/Ill_Client9724 → u/Davetron-3030]

Feel like there’s no chance it’s on the table, if you trade Lavine and (probably) Derozan that’s a bottom 5 roster in the league.

[u/Davetron-3030 → u/Ill_Client9724]

That would be my most untouchable asset if I'm Chicago. That would be the only thing I accept for Lavine with our current roster.

[u/Zeplinex49 → u/Ill_Client9724]

And next seasons draft is looking like it'll have 1 or 2 top of the top end guys. No chance they deal that pick.

But then again, it's the Bulls. Anything is possible.

[u/Acrobatic_File_5133 → u/Davetron-3030]

For real, we aren’t attracting a player of his caliber the next few FA cycles, Bulls very likely gonna be buns next season.

Extra lottery ball in 2025 and a #2 scorer next to Cade. Unless Trajan can somehow scrap together multi firsts with the remaining cap for players on expiring deals, it’s definitely one of our better options imo

Guessing the Bulls want to have some silly protection on the first (like 20) otherwise, it makes sense

[u/RestaurantLatter2354 → u/Acrobatic_File_5133]

I know it’s a big if, but if he can stay relatively healthy and hasn’t lost his athleticism, that contract may not look so bad in a year or two and he may be a tradable asset.

[u/Acrobatic_File_5133 → u/RestaurantLatter2354]

Agree, in the final year of his deal $40M ish is going to be the going rate for an above average starter

[u/Surgebuster → u/Acrobatic_File_5133]

He’s clearly not valued as an above average starter now, if GSW turned him down for only Wiggins and CP3.

[u/Acrobatic_File_5133 → u/Surgebuster]

Yeah, gotta think that GMs know something the casual fans don’t.

The contract sucks. Personally, I don’t think he’s a Ben Simmons type poison pill though.

Shutting down his season and electing to have foot surgery when Pistons rumors heated up last year probably not the best look for fringe play in teams who need a leader, further limiting his “market” to basically nothing since the contenders are cash strapped and not in any position to eat his remaining 3 year $125 or w/e that ridiculous number is

[u/bullpaw → u/Davetron-3030]

Spurs have the bulls 2025 pick

[u/Slippinjimmyforever → u/Davetron-3030]

Bulls would be insane to do that. I think any team with cap space take that deal.

[u/Murrrtits]

Give us 2 FRP with him lol

[u/jaymochi]

It was so funny last year when Bulls fans were intent on a Lavine trade with the Pistons, and the common wisdom was that a first-rounder AND Ivey would be "enough". Absolutely delusional.

[u/brasky68 → u/jaymochi]

Lmao I remember posts on their sub saying Bojan, Ivey and a pick would get it done.

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[u/reallinguy]

Would need more than one FRP, for any team

[u/okg120]

Remember those delusional bulls fans that were saying Detroit needs to give up Ivey and a first minimum for Lavine 😂.

[u/ARomanGuy]

If Chicago is actually going to blow it up, there's no way they'd attach an unprotected first with LaVine. If they're planning on trying to compete, just without LaVine, I'd be interested because I think their roster construction sucks and the pick would probably be mid 1st at worst.

But $43m over 3 years with a 15% trade kicker is absolutely brutal business, and it would bite us badly if Chicago somehow ended up better than expected. I don't think it's really worth the risk.

[u/farstate55 → u/ARomanGuy]

If they don’t offer that pick then no one is going to touch him. He is an albatross for 3 yrs.

[u/Ghettoman1315]

His knees are shot. That is why no one wants him and that big contract. He cannot stay on the the floor.

[u/wildcherrymatt84]

I honestly think we should do it for him and a first. I think it’s the kind of shake up Detroit needs. We are not contenders for a few years and by then he will have taken pressure off Cade and gives us a chance at play-in possibilities in the next 2-3 years. I think he gives the young guys more of a taste for winning too, which they desperately need. Plus he will be more valuable then, or at least less of an albatross for us. If we don’t, we are still short some difference makers. I see little downside to this.

[u/SmithChristopher1 → u/wildcherrymatt84]

This was my exact thought.  

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[u/dotint → u/wildcherrymatt84]

A first for cap space the pistons have to spend

[u/TomDelouise]

Seems like a trap

[u/Slippinjimmyforever]

If true, I want very light protections if I’m eating ZL’s contract. He’s already a borderline distressed asset. If his efficiency and athleticism decline further, he’ll be viewed as an unmovable negative asset.

[u/Haselrig]

Dude's a modular home. It'd take so, so many attachments just to make it livable 🤣

[u/Zealousideal_Arm4359]

Yet plenty of boobs on here wanted to give picks and players

[u/peanutbutter1236]

Him and a first I would run with that in a heartbeat

[u/Wolfpack_DO]

Please please please

[u/13ronco]

I'd do it, ngl. Picks > Space