But Barack....can't we find someone with all those qualities you list that can actually string a coherent sentence together and isn't 8 decades old?
Last night wasn't just a terrible debate, it showed Biden to be a terrible candidate. Trump is trash but he was at least coherent. Even after last nights terrible debate you had your stereotypical Clinton Clone downplaying Biden's disastrous performance on CNN while all the other panelist where rightly shocked. That sums up the state of the Democratic Party and that attitude will cost them come November.
Most independents probably aren't voting for Trump, but they ain't voting Biden either after that performance. Better believe that MAGA will be out in full force and we will be stuck with another Trump presidency.
Biden needs to drop out. Kamala ain't the answer either, she would get destroyed in the general election. Maybe Newsome? Beshear? Sherrod Brown? I don't know but the Democrats need to wake up and change SOMETHING before its too late.
It's already too late. None of those people are beating Trump.
If you had Michelle Obama, Oprah, Mark Cuban maybe, you could stand a chance, but it has to be someone that is already very famous and well liked and which Democrats are willing to quickly rally around.
It’s not too late, and there are potentials within the party (as opposed to more celebrities) that could beat Trump. Don’t take my word for it though: This article from November goes into better detail. A generic democrat named Blanky McBlankface, with all of the same milquetoast democrat talking points and campaign promises as Biden, easily beats Trump. But that person doesn’t exist I guess, so what about real candidates? Gretchen Whitmer easily beats Trump in a swing state he currently holds over Biden. In pre-spring polls, Trump was beating many of these democrat opponents, yes, but none of that polling data reflects his post-conviction nosedive in the polls - 21% of independents said they’re likely to ditch him now. Right now the biggest obstacle for most voters is that Biden is a billion years old. If we just address this single issue by collectively pushing to send grandpa to the home, we can get on with having a democracy. But the longer we cling to Biden is the closer we come to 2016 2: Electric Boogaloo.
Unfortunately it’s not that easy. This article explains it quite well.
“Every state has already held its presidential primary. Democratic rules mandate that the delegates Biden won remain obligated to support him at the party’s upcoming national convention unless he tells them he’s leaving the race.
Biden indicated that he had no plans to do that, telling supporters in Atlanta shortly after he left the debate stage, “Let’s keep going.” Biden campaign spokesperson Lauren Hitt was even clearer, saying Friday: “Of course he’s not dropping out.”
The conventions and their rules are controlled by the political parties. The Democratic National Committee could convene before the convention opens on Aug. 19 and change how things will work, but that isn’t likely as long as Biden wants to continue seeking reelection.”
If our collective political strategy is driven by what’s easiest instead of what’s best, that actually perfectly explains how we ended up in this shitshow to begin with.
Correct. Which is precisely why I said it wasn’t as easy as you state rather than saying it’s impossible. It is however, improbable. But that’s not a conversation you’re ready to have. It sucks when people interject with pesky facts, huh? The reality is Biden is holding the party hostage at this point and we are all ‘bag holders’. I’m not anymore happy about that than you are but I’m not going to mislead people with wishful thinking when the Democratic Party backed themselves into this corner that we all saw coming for ~ 2 years. Biden is not the guy and his ego is getting in the way. Either that or something more sinister is going on behind the scenes of the DNC who has insisted on propping Joe up in the media like we can’t all see this is “Weekend at Bernie’s” brought to life on the largest stage possible.
I think the real candidates like Gretchen would have beaten Trump if we had a full primary process to build name recognition and comfort with the chosen candidate, but since that didn't happen, I think you'd need a celebrity to beat Trump. Americans don't know who Gretchen is and one convention speech in August is not enough national air time to change that. Trump very likely wouldn't agree to debate her as it would only hurt him at this point. Instead he'd just complain ad nauseam that the Democrats cheated when they got rid of Biden.
In any case, based on everything I've seen today from Biden and others, doesn't seem like Biden is dropping out. It's Biden v Trump and we all just have to hope that Biden can look coherent enough in the next 4 months to not scare away voters.
Legally, much of the country wouldn't have the ability to remove Biden, especially after the next few weeks. Nevada's already locked him in as the candidate for example, as of today. Other states wouldn't allow him to be removed unless he died. Which is obviously not going to happen.
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u/smkAce0921 ☑️ 4d ago edited 4d ago
But Barack....can't we find someone with all those qualities you list that can actually string a coherent sentence together and isn't 8 decades old?
Last night wasn't just a terrible debate, it showed Biden to be a terrible candidate. Trump is trash but he was at least coherent. Even after last nights terrible debate you had your stereotypical Clinton Clone downplaying Biden's disastrous performance on CNN while all the other panelist where rightly shocked. That sums up the state of the Democratic Party and that attitude will cost them come November.
Most independents probably aren't voting for Trump, but they ain't voting Biden either after that performance. Better believe that MAGA will be out in full force and we will be stuck with another Trump presidency.
Biden needs to drop out. Kamala ain't the answer either, she would get destroyed in the general election. Maybe Newsome? Beshear? Sherrod Brown? I don't know but the Democrats need to wake up and change SOMETHING before its too late.