r/worldnews • u/Urmomsjuicyvagina • 26d ago

Russian warships will arrive in Havana next week, say Cuban officials citing ‘friendly relations Russia/Ukraine

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u/HalstonBeckett 26d ago

The Ukrainians just announced an anti-ship drone exercise in the Caribbean next week.

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u/yehghurl 26d ago

That would be epic.

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u/Ill-Function9385 25d ago

I hope my taxes go towards making it a reality

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u/ManyAreMyNames 25d ago

It would epic to see a drone smash into a Russian ship as it's visiting Cuba.

It would be scarier if the Russian ships just disappeared in the Atlantic without a trace.

Are there anti-ship drones that can jam radio signals?

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u/JinMarui 25d ago

There are electronic-warfare drones that can jam, but whether or not those can be used in tandem with anti-ship drones without interfering with each other is a good question whose answer is probably still classified.

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u/Username_Used 25d ago

You joke, but that's the kind of shit that triggers world wars.

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u/tiny_chaotic_evil 25d ago

not the invading your neighbors, nope, that never does

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u/jonometal666 25d ago

No no no that doesn't count. Only the gay nazi meanies in the west cause world wars.

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u/warkana 25d ago

Not really, it still very unlikely that Russia would attack any NATO country openly, it’s almost impossible because they are not total idiots, usually countries start war if they believe they can win, every country in history which started war believed they can win, Russia can’t win against NATO right now, China can’t win against USA now(it can change soon, now it’s almost impossible for them). Hitler believed he can win and he almost won. So you don’t need to be afraid that Russia will start open war against NATO like it started against Ukraine. You should be afraid that Russia do hybrid war against you, and they doing it right now, everyday, during last 30 years, and war against Ukraine is part of this hybrid war. If Ukraine lose they can win war against West without really starting any open conflict, right wingers, which are paying from Russia like AfD or le Pen would win election, and they will destroy NATO and EU from inside. It’s the real Russian plan of war against the West. And I must repeat myself Russia isn’t going to start ww3, because they will lose it. Actually, similar event happened before ww2. Soviet union helped Hitler to get into power, his party created coalition with German communist, which was controlled and financed by Soviet Russia, and only later he made overturn and got absolute power, but without communists it was impossible

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u/florkingarshole 26d ago

Back then the Soviets had a competent, functional fighting force in top notch condition . . .

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u/Kelz87 26d ago

The Ukrainians are also practing their beach landings. Something about vacations in pig bay…

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u/Osmo-7777 26d ago

They'll do that while ballin knee deep between Dmonican Republic and Puerto Rico

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u/Cthulhuhoop 26d ago

Haiti becomes South Ukraine.

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u/Cleaver2000 25d ago

Honestly, a Polish/Ukrainian force to get rid of the gangs in Haiti would be one of the few options that Haitians may feel generally good about. Poland and Haiti have a long friendship going back to the Haitian Revolution. 

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u/Flomo420 25d ago

I would like to know more

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u/LiveLifeLikeCre 25d ago

Haitian American here. I'd like to know more too. I know a lot of young nations supported Haiti in solidarity against colonizing world powers and etc, but poland is new to me. Were they even their own nation in the early 1800s?

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u/forresja 25d ago edited 25d ago

Most of the Polish soldiers that Napoleon sent to quell the Haitian uprising defected and joined the revolution.

In thanks, the Haitian constitution guaranteed citizenship to any Polish citizen that wanted it.

Edit: Guaranteed* citizenship. Not anymore.

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u/project2501c 25d ago

sauce?

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u/o2206623 25d ago

Took 30 seconds to Google my friend:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Haitians

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u/project2501c 25d ago

yeah that says nowhere "guarantees citizenship to any Polish citizen that wants it"

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u/DOUBLEBARRELASSFUCK 25d ago

Haitian American here.

Sweet, we're about to get all of the details.

I'd like to know more too.

Well shit...

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u/Renphligia 25d ago

I'm not Polish, but I'm a huge history nerd, and I gotta tell you that the Polish-Haitian story is really fascinating. The Wikipedia page has some more details: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Haitians

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u/Deadened_ghosts 25d ago

During this time, there was a familiar situation going on back in their homeland as these Polish soldiers were fighting for their liberty from the occupying forces of Russia, Prussia, and Austria that began in 1772.

Posted the full account of them changing sides just above

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u/Jake_The_Destroyer 25d ago

If I remember right, when Haiti was a French colony under Napoleon, Polish troops from the Duchy of Warsaw were sent to help maintain control of the colony but eventually sided with the revolutionaries and some Poles stayed in the country for a time.

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u/Deadened_ghosts 25d ago

In 1802, Napoleon added a Polish legion of around 5,200 to the forces sent to Saint-Domingue to fight off the slave rebellion. However, the Poles were told that there was a revolt of prisoners in Saint-Domingue. Upon arrival and the first fights, the Polish soldiers soon discovered that what was actually taking place in the colony was a rebellion of slaves fighting off their French masters for their freedom. During this time, there was a familiar situation going on back in their homeland as these Polish soldiers were fighting for their liberty from the occupying forces of Russia, Prussia, and Austria that began in 1772. Many Poles believed that if they fought for France, Bonaparte would reward them by restoring Polish independence, which had been ended with the Third Partition of Poland in 1795. As hopeful as the Haitians, many Poles were seeking union amongst themselves to win back their freedom and independence by organizing an uprising. As a result, many Polish soldiers admired their opponents, to eventually turn on the French army and join the Haitian slaves. Polish soldiers participated in the Haitian revolution of 1804, contributing to the establishment of the world's first free black republic and the first independent Caribbean state.

Haiti's first head of state Jean-Jacques Dessalines called Polish people "the White Negroes of Europe", which was then regarded a great honor, as it meant brotherhood between Poles and Haitians. Many years later François Duvalier, the president of Haiti who was known for his black nationalist and Pan-African views, used the same concept of "European white negroes" while referring to Polish people and glorifying their patriotism. After Haiti gained its independence, the Poles acquired Haitian citizenship for their loyalty and support in overthrowing the French colonialists, and were called "black" by the Haitian constitution.

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u/Cleaver2000 25d ago

Very good summary, thanks. I will just add that Pope John Paul II (who was Polish) went to Haiti (I don't think any other Pope has visited deeply Catholic Haiti) in 1983 and roasted Duvalier for the poverty and suffering in the country. There are Haitians who can trace their ancestry to those Polish soldiers who joined the Revolution.

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u/Kevo_NEOhio 25d ago

I’d say in spirit, if the Haitian people were game. Haiti has been pretty badass at keeping out foreign occupation or so says behind the bastards

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u/LiveLifeLikeCre 25d ago

The Haitian Revolution sparked the end of cross-ocean slavery by many world powers and opened the door for the fall of Napoleon since France was spread too thin.

Though France, with the support of other world powers at the time, extorted Haiti (with threat of invasion with war ships docked in the carribean) by demanding reperarions that took over 100 years to pay off. 

If you look at Haiti before the USA and CIA started fucking over the carribean and south America, it resembled Havana with Vegas lights. Regime change after regime change during the cold War and 80s/early 90s did a lot to ruin the country. Just good to see and learn when usual discourse doesn't tell the whole story. 

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u/cthuloubega 25d ago

Whaaaaaat's shakin, my Haitians?

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u/Hot-Rise9795 25d ago

The reason is that there's no oil in Haiti.

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u/fireinthesky7 25d ago

That would be a significant improvement over the current situation in Haiti.

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u/silent_thinker 26d ago

They thought they’d finally gotten a vacation, but suddenly it had to be ripped from them to perform a special Russian ship sinking operation.

Then back to vacation.

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u/Strawbuddy 26d ago

Watch, UA’s gonna sink the damn thing while they’re vacationing

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u/ScriptproLOL 26d ago

Honestly, if it's just one ship and not a fleet they could probably hijack it. I doubt they would be operating pretty lazily and not paying attention to the local environment. The biggest problem would be the sheer number of sailors on board

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u/drewster23 26d ago edited 25d ago

Russian sailors are definitely not fighting to the death if some special forces teams board and take out/capture the leadership/COs.

Nor would they probably be prepared in the slightest.

*Not that this would be it's first option.

As. Their.naval drone reported range is 800km...and Cuba is not very far away from other land. So...

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u/Lots42 25d ago

Sailors: You let us leave on a lifeboat for America, we say nothing.

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u/L3thologica_ 25d ago

They’d probably board it to find it entirely abandoned, with all the Russians fleeing to Cuba to escape the war.

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u/zypofaeser 25d ago

They just need to smuggle one out. If they can send some smaller boats through the Polish river networks, it could work.

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u/Umutuku 26d ago

Boom Canoes going on world tour.

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u/stamfordbridge1191 25d ago

News yesterday talked about how the Ukrainians just opened a Syrian front to the Ukraine war, so a Caribbean front may not be as outright off the table as I would have previously thought.

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u/RAGEEEEE 25d ago

I half expect Ukraine to some how fire a Neptune from Ukraine and hit them in Cuba.

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u/Icedanielization 25d ago

Amazing, if at the end of all this, Ukraine emerges as Europes next major power.

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u/MaybeTheDoctor 25d ago

As long as they a controlled by starlink they could operate anywhere

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u/ImprovementSilly2895 25d ago

This isn’t even that outlandish of an idea. They are killing Russians on the ground in Sudan right now.

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u/Fast-Reaction8521 25d ago

The onion should run with that title

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u/VirtualPlate8451 25d ago

Just don’t get caught with ammo on any of the islands.