r/worldnews • u/Advanced_Drink_8536 • May 25 '24

Russia Bombs Ukraine Superstore With Hundreds Inside Russia/Ukraine

https://www.thedailybeast.com/russia-bombs-ukraine-superstore-with-hundreds-inside-in-kharkiv
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u/vsysio May 25 '24

Honestly? Marketing. Palestine has good marketing. Protesting for Palestine has become fashionable.

 Not like I see anybody protesting Congo or Sudan.

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u/NeonGKayak May 25 '24

Marketing? You mean propaganda campaigns from Russia, Iran, and China? Sure

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u/IGargleGarlic May 25 '24

propaganda is marketing

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u/Chief_White_Halfoat May 26 '24

I'm not sure if you're being purposely obtuse, but it's not very complicated to understand why protests exists for one but not the other.

The US is supporting Ukraine, why would people be protesting at US colleges for a war in which the US is actively in support of Ukraine?

The protests for Palestine are taking place because the US is an avid supporter of Israel, and supply Israel with weapons that kill Palestinian civilians (whatever you think of the overall conflict, that is inarguable).

The same is true of other conflicts in Sudan or the Congo etc. The US is not supporting the state in those conflicts which is inflicting large numbers of civilian casualties.

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u/Skulking-Dwig May 25 '24

If I saw students protesting to divest from China over their genocide of the Uighur population, I might actually die of shock.

But nah, those people are actually innocent. It’s all the rage nowadays to protest for people who would thank you for it with a bullet to the face. If you’re lucky.

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u/Lucaan May 26 '24

There have literally
been multiple Uyghur protests
from American college students.

You would probably have known that if you actually cared about Uyghurs more than just as a tool to use against Palestinian protesters. But obviously that isn't the case.

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u/Skulking-Dwig May 26 '24

Very presumptuous of you to assume I don’t care, but ok guy. Just the fact that I know what’s going on means I care more than 90% of those self-righteous-ass kids.

That being said, I really am glad some people care. But those don’t seem to have the most impressive turnouts. They’re not exactly out there attacking police with Rubbermaid shields.

Besides, if you’d bothered to actually care about my opinion rather than just attacking me, I’d have told you that I do care about the Palestinian people and I want the violence to end. Preferably for good, as there are some lovely people there, as there are everywhere. However the violence will not end until Hamas is gone. That’s the nuance these kids don’t seem to understand. Demanding a ceasefire and that Israel capitulate to the terrorist’s demands may save lives in the short run, but it will only extend the conflict and cost many, many more in the long run. What happens the next time Hamas launches a 10/7-style attack, as they promised to do? What happens when they do it again and again and again? I get that that requires actual thought beyond chanting ‘CeAsEfIrE NoW’ and sharing TikToks, but that’s the way it is. Unfortunate as it might be.

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u/RickySpanishLives May 25 '24

That's accurate to the extent that there are more vocal voices in the United States with respect to Palestine and Israel than there are for Ukraine. Many normal people took up the cause for defending Ukraine, but outside of Zelensky and random politicians trying to use the issue to score political points, it doesn't get the same level of coverage.

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u/misterwalkway May 26 '24

No, it's because western governments aren't supplying the Russian war effort.

Come on, you can disagree with the protests but you have to see there is a difference between protesting a US ally that is waging war with our weapons, vs protesting a US adversary that we are supplying weapons against.

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u/churrascothighs1 May 25 '24

Have you considered that more people are protesting because Israel-Palestine has had more news coverage and that the government is pro-Israel? If the government was pro-Palestine there wouldn’t be a great need to protest.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '24

Difference between hamas and the innocent people getting slaughtered by Israel.