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Keir Starmer says he doesn’t want schools teaching young people about transgender identities ...

https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/06/25/keir-starmer-trans-education-general-election-2024/
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u/turbo_dude 5d ago edited 5d ago

How accurate is that figure? Just thinking how many people I see in a typical day and how many are 'any category of anything' and this seems wildly high.

In an update on Wednesday, the Office for National Statistics said there were “patterns in the data consistent with some respondents not interpreting the question as we had intended”.

The proportion of people who had a different main language than English and who said they were trans was four times higher than the 0.4% of the population with English as their main language (or English or Welsh in Wales).

Adults with no educational qualifications were more likely to identify as trans than university graduates, while black and Asian people were more likely to identify as trans than white people, the findings released this year showed.

from the grauniad

that last para...can't be that it's linked to ethnicity or education level

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u/Aiyon 5d ago

Correlation is not causation. The education one is more likely to go the other Way, trans people are more likely to drop out of school/uni due to bullying, depression, etc.

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u/KTKitten Yorkshire 2d ago

It’s in line with conservative estimates, we’re estimated to be somewhere between 0.4-2% so while it may not be dead on accurate it’s more likely to be low than wildly high. Bear in mind that most people don’t actually have labels of what categories they fall into hovering over their heads, nor do people in particular categories always have a specific look, so you won’t always be able to tell who’s trans or anything else at a glance.

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u/turbo_dude 2d ago

2%? 1 in 50? You'd have four people on every tube carriage and two on every double decker bus. I suspect this is not accurate.

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u/KTKitten Yorkshire 2d ago

Every double decker bus I’ve ever been on has had at least one. And while I don’t believe I’m able to perfectly detect other trans people, because again people don’t have labels of our categories floating above our heads, I know I have been on buses that had as many as three of us on at once. It really isn’t that absurd an idea.

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u/turbo_dude 2d ago

And every double decker bus I have ever been on has had me on it.

What kind of weird statistical flex is that?

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u/KTKitten Yorkshire 2d ago

Not a flex, just saying two trans people on one bus is not exactly unrealistic.