r/politics • u/Murky-Site7468 • 4d ago

'Chill The F**k Out': John Fetterman Urges Democrats To Stick With Joe Biden | The Pennsylvania senator reminded panicked Democrats on Friday that he too had a bad debate once, yet he went on to win his Senate seat.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-debate-john-fetterman_n_667ea850e4b0415858d6a2f1
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u/iuthnj34 4d ago

He was talking about abortion, his strongest stance for the party but then went to talk about immigration and 3 year old killed by it which was his weakest point.

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u/LonelyDilo 4d ago

Lol that’s not what happened. He was talking about how republicans always bring up women dying from immigrants to fear monger but never talk about the women that die from their abortion policies.

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u/WimpTheBraveDog 4d ago

Damn, if only he could have said that other than mumbling through a nonsense answer.

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u/LonelyDilo 4d ago

He did say that. You should probably listen next time instead of watching sound bites after the fact. Even Jon Stewart was misrepresenting what Biden said. Lost a lot of respect for him. Guess he’s fake too.

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u/WimpTheBraveDog 4d ago

"Look, there’s so many young women who have been – including a young woman who just was murdered and he – he went to the funeral. The idea that she was murdered by a – by – by an immigrant coming in, and they talk about that. But here’s the deal, there’s a lot of young women who are being raped by their – by their in-laws, by their – by their spouses, brothers and sisters, by – just – it’s just – it’s just ridiculous. And they can do nothing about it. And they tried to arrest them when they cross state lines."

I watched the debate with my own two eyes and unlike some, I didn't have my head in the sand.

Trump is a terrible wannabe-dictator and should never be president. If Biden is his opponent on the ballot in November then Trump is going to win.

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u/LonelyDilo 4d ago

Yeah, I’m not sure Biden can win either, but what he said was obvious. Im not sure what’s confusing you.

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u/ReddittorMan 4d ago

Are you defending the above quote by saying the message was obvious???

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u/Holycity 4d ago

Absolutely delusional 

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u/LonelyDilo 4d ago

Indeed. It’s quite obvious what he was saying and I don’t understand how people are confused.

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u/LonelyDilo 4d ago

Yes????

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u/wiifan55 4d ago

Dude it's nonsensical ranting without any through-line to actually connect the two issues. Just because we can understand what he was trying to get at doesn't mean he said anything even remotely comprehensible w/o additional context. Imagine how that response looks to an average american. They won't even know what the fuck he's talking about.

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u/Front_Appointment_68 4d ago

Delusion

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u/LonelyDilo 4d ago

Im factually correct. Cry about it.

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u/GringottsWizardBank 4d ago

He sounded like he was having a stroke. The words that were actually coming out of his mouth are of little consequence because you could barely understand him.

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u/LonelyDilo 4d ago

Except I understood him perfectly well.

I didn’t realize Biden was this bad off, and I’m debating within myself whether it’s a good idea to replace him. However, what the commenter above me said about that particular Biden response is just pure disinformation.

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u/Philip_Marlowe 4d ago

I don't really think it's disinformation. That response from Biden was terrible. He was a trainwreck up there - far worse than almost anyone expected him to be.

He literally could have, and should have, turned to Trump and said "Did you just say that doctors in Virginia are aborting babies after they're born? I know it's hard for you to tell the truth about anything, but even you should be able to admit that's a complete lie."

Not that it matters for me - I'm a firm believer in the Democratic agenda and I live in Illinois, so my vote essentially doesn't count because we're so blue. That said, if you were on the fence about voting, Biden's performance last night was not inspiring.

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u/LonelyDilo 4d ago

It’s literally disinformation because he misinterpreted Biden’s response. A lot of people are doing it.

That doesn’t mean Biden’s responses were good.

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u/Deep-Thanks-963 4d ago

I heard him say some nonsense about how the first trimester is between the woman and her doctor, but the third trimester is between the woman and the state. I don’t know exactly what that is supposed to mean, can you clarify?

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u/LonelyDilo 4d ago

Not sure i don’t remember that exact moment from the debate

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u/Sensitive_Yam_1979 4d ago

Ya know he spoke English.

We shouldn’t need people to translate what he was trying to say.

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u/Hyndis 4d ago

I needed subtitles. I honestly couldn't understand what Biden was saying half the time.

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u/LonelyDilo 4d ago

I’m not translating anything. What he said was obvious. I really don’t get it.

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u/boomshtick676 4d ago

It's been a terrible thing what you've done the fact is that the vast majority of constitutional Scholars supported Roe when it was decided supported Roe, and that was this idea that they're all against it is just ridiculous and this is the guy who says the state should be able to have it we're in a state we're in six weeks you don't even know whether you're pregnant or not but you cannot see a doctor have your and have him decide on what your circumstances are whether you need help the idea that states are able to do this is a little like saying we're going to turn civil rights back to the States -- let each state have a different rule. Look there's so many young women who have been, including a young woman who just was murdered, and he went to the funeral uh the idea that she was murdered by an immigrant coming into they talk about that but here's the deal there's a lot of young women are being raped by their by their in-laws by their by by their spouses, brothers, and sisters. It's just ridiculous and they can do nothing about it and they try to arrest them when they cross state line.

Those are the words that came out of Biden's face last night. Please point to any section where it's obvious Biden is calling Republicans' hypocrisy.

You're putting words in his mouth that he never said.

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u/LonelyDilo 4d ago

Im not putting words in his mouth it’s just obvious what he meant.

He brought up the immigrant murdering women and then he says “they talk about that,” and then precedes to say how women are raped by their family and they’re arresting the women for trying to get abortions in other states.

It’s so easy to piece together I’m actually dumbfounded that we’re having this conversation

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u/LonelyDilo 4d ago

I’m amazed you didn’t think this response out. Is your issue the lack of verbal eloquence or the content of the message?

The former is obvious, but the latter is actually a good point. They only care about women when it’s convenient for the political ideology