r/politics Rolling Stone Jun 02 '24

Trump Denies Ever Saying ‘Lock Her Up.’ He Did… Several Times Soft Paywall

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-denies-saying-lock-her-up-clinton-1235031145/
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u/Star-K Jun 02 '24

Run them on Fox

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u/rayray1010 Jun 02 '24

Except Fox literally runs the headline “Biden Convicts Trump” to support his political witch hunt defense. That type of reporting should be illegal tbh. Biden should sue.

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u/M2D2 Jun 02 '24

Remember Fox News legally isn’t news, it’s entertainment.

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u/OfBooo5 Jun 02 '24

No rational person would see Tucker Carlson and think they were being serious - lawyers for fox

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u/Revolveri-Timo Jun 02 '24

They are right, but problem is that rational people dont watch fox

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u/FortNightsAtPeelys Jun 02 '24

And fox viewers can vote

(God I hope no one under 18 watches fox news)

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u/Revolveri-Timo Jun 03 '24

Yep, that is the worst side of it

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u/drblah11 Jun 02 '24

There's at least 74 million irrational people in this country

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u/anndrago Jun 02 '24

We shouldn't underestimate the impact that growing up in an environment of propaganda has on people. Even otherwise rational people.

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u/ztumnus Jun 02 '24

You know that, I know that, others know that. Rational people don't watch Fox. And these irrational dumb mother fuckers watch Fox.

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u/_ficklelilpickle Jun 02 '24

The guy that flew to Russia and was seemingly impressed by a loaf of bread?

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u/BaggerX Jun 02 '24

As if that matters to half the country. They're still the top "news" channel.

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u/Kalean Jun 02 '24

OAN and NewsMax have taken that spot.

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u/CSalustro Jun 03 '24

I feel like this is overblown. I know for a fact that some places everything from Military Bases to Doctors offices and Car dealerships literally just keep Fox on the TV not because they watch it but just to have something on for customers to drown in. I’ve asked in a few places to change the channel or simply turn it off and have been told it’s a requirement to have it on.

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u/BaggerX 29d ago

I don't think that has much to do with the ratings numbers.

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u/CSalustro 29d ago

What? How many TVs are playing a said network is exactly how ratings are determined.

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u/BaggerX 29d ago

How does a broadcast channel know how many TVs are receiving the signal?

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u/Cognosyeti Nebraska Jun 02 '24

Right, they should be forced to change their name

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u/Cobek Jun 02 '24

I'm not sure why that wasn't part of the settlement

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u/dreadpiratesmith Jun 02 '24

That might change the minds of like....7 people. To most of them it will be "our feee speech and press are under attack"

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u/M2D2 Jun 02 '24

Fox “News”

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u/AlphaNerd80 Jun 02 '24

Run that as a part of the ad campaign blitz... Let the @$$holes get a taste of their own dog food

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u/cupcakemann95 California Jun 02 '24

Except their dumb viewers think it's actually news because they have nice legal obligation to say it's entertainment and nit actual news to them. Hell the channel is literally fox NEWS, so they lie to everyone with just that and claim it's entertainment

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u/ReverseRutebega Jun 02 '24

That makes zero difference to the idiots who inhale it.

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u/rexspook Jun 02 '24

That’s a stupid loophole that shouldn’t be allowed. They present it as news.

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u/Dipsquat Jun 02 '24

What’s the source for that? I need to share that source with some folks….

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u/TheDude-Esquire Jun 02 '24

Just another thing we can thank Reagan for.

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u/FavoritesBot Jun 02 '24

I am not entertained

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u/Nago31 Jun 03 '24

Libel is libel. “Biden” did not convict Trump and saying so is a direct attack on Biden as a person.

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u/blacksnowboader 29d ago

No, Tucker Carlson’s (and coincidentally Rachel Maddow) isnt news but that doesn’t apply to all programming

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u/veringer Tennessee Jun 02 '24

You can't put an "organic" label on food laden with pesticides. How can you put a "news" label on an outlet that's laden with intentional falsehoods? How do we get the same level of regulation on our media diets that we do on our food?

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u/RxHappy Jun 02 '24

That’s not true. Only certain programs have been declared entertainment, not the entire network. Unfortunately.

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u/LoveStruck____ Jun 02 '24

No, Tucker was legally not news. Their evening news show absolutely is.

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u/wasnt_a_fluke Jun 02 '24

And the NY Post (under the same umbrella as Fox "News") ran the front page as "INJUSTICE", while pretty much every other outlet had "Guilty" or some other similar text.

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u/AbroadPlane1172 Jun 02 '24

Turns out you can still sue the shit of them as if they were a news network.

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u/Opening_Property1334 Jun 02 '24

As Dominion recently reminded them. They’re still playing with fire and they know it.

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u/parasyte_steve Jun 02 '24

"JUDGE BIDEN PERSONALLY IMPRISONS TRUMP WITH NO EVIDENCE AND WITHOUT A FAIR TRIAL" - a fox headline, probably.

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u/Outlulz Jun 02 '24

They ran that headline to describe a NY state trial?

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u/placid_salad Jun 02 '24

Yeah but if you run them on Fox then other news networks will talk about it for free. Reach more eyes for less money.

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u/gubber-blump Jun 03 '24

I haven't seen this anywhere. I'd love a link!

*Found a Twitter post. I guess the Reddit app doesn't allow you to upload images in a comment.

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1796697602471387626

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u/flickh Canada 29d ago

I read a ton of Fox news recently and they don't mention the hush money, the fraudulent business records, or the porn star. They just keep saying "Trump says his conviction was bogus." "How bogus?" "Thanks for asking, it was very bogus."

You could read that site all day and not even know what the charge was. In case that confuses you, they helpfully quote Republicans saying "There wasn't any crime, the jury didn't get told what the crime was, there's no crime here." So that closes that cognitive loophole.

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u/Blackadder288 Jun 02 '24

While I agree in principle it’s a horrible slope to go down to start policing good journalism vs crony journalism

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u/NobelPirate Jun 02 '24

And OAN, and make some for AM radio and Podcasts, where they narrate the counts, along with quotes.

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u/harrisarah Jun 02 '24

They wouldn't accept them

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u/tangerinelion Jun 02 '24

Bingo. Everyone knows the trump conviction is a rigged witch hunt while the Clinton allegations are well founded and she was protected by the corrupt DOJ because she's in charge of the lizard people who control the real government.

/s because jesus christ you can imagine people actually think that.

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u/Papplenoose Jun 02 '24

It's really sad that even your "regular" Republicans have now succumbed to completely insane conspiracy theories to explain any/everything. They can't handle the reality that they got bamboozled so they keep making up weirder and weirder lies to tell themselves :/

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u/Wolfwoods_Sister Jun 02 '24

I just saw a (former) friend post a meme of Trump in an orange prison jumpsuit with the words “Don’t care — voting for him anyway”.

That’s how MAGA ppl are. It’s a goddamn cult.

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u/AAA515 Jun 02 '24

Can I interest you in a documentary called John Carpenter's They Live?

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u/magnetic_yeti Jun 02 '24

They legally are require to, otherwise they can’t accept ANY political ads. Not saying they wouldn’t reject them, they’d just be criminals for doing so.

And you know down ballot republicans need to advertise on Fox News still.

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 Jun 02 '24

I think this only applies to over the air broadcast stations, and is only relevant to official sources. They can reject anything from a PAC or independent source., or edit the content at their discretion.

There are some rules that pertain to political advertising as laid out by the FEC, which involve content that extends to cable or online news media, but not the equitable acceptance stuff.

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u/Dumptruck_Johnson Jun 02 '24

The fox network would run any acceptable political ad I believe. I think the major networks still have to be bipartisan during campaign season ads, right?

Now Fox News, doubt it’d go there, lol.

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u/ZhouLe 29d ago

MAGA has long abandoned FoxNews. They are on OANN, Newsmax, and whatever they can find on Facebook Reels.

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u/Dixnorkel 29d ago

...that gives fox money, you understand that right?