r/mildlyinteresting Nov 19 '22

Olive Garden gave me a daily sales report instead of a receipt Quality Post

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u/Otherwise-Tale9671 Nov 19 '22

How is it so fucking hard for another restaurant to copy their croutons? I’m about to open a Ruby Tuesday-modeled crouton-only restaurant. I’ll prolly make some decent coin….

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u/Talking_Head Nov 19 '22

Lots of fat and salt. And natural or artificial glutamates if you can work them in. Those three things (along with some sweetness) are why restaurant food tastes so good.

Home cooks are generally conscious about limiting how much fat and salt they add because they are eating that food all the time. Restaurants don’t give a fuck. And most home cooks don’t add any artificial glutamates even when the dish lacks them. MSG scare and all.

I make a mean vegetarian gravy. At thanksgiving meals it goes 5 times as fast as the meat-based drippings gravy. My secret? Vegetarian bouillon cubes which are basically palm oil and MSG. In fact, I toss one or two of those vegetable bouillon cubes into many things I make.

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u/Potatoswatter Nov 19 '22

Those cubes are probably a hundred times the price of Crisco and bulk MSG 😉

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u/Talking_Head Nov 19 '22

Then use crisco and MSG. You are the one cooking. You figured out a cheaper way to do it, so go for it.

Meanwhile, I’ll keep doing what I do because it works for me, and I am a dolt. The extra spices, convenient packaging and the ability to freeze the pre-measured cubes indefinitely is what I know.

I started hobby cooking 25 years ago, and well, my recipes are written with those cubes in mind. Anyway…

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u/Potatoswatter Nov 19 '22

Sorry, it was meant as commentary on reluctance to use MSG.

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u/Talking_Head Nov 19 '22

Agreed. It has become so verboten in the ingredient list. Yet, there are a lot of ways to add glutamates to food hidden behind names like “autolyzed yeast extract.” In any case, people love umami even if they don’t know they do.

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u/Devccoon Nov 19 '22

Thanksgiving coming up, we need that gravy recipe~

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u/Talking_Head Nov 19 '22 edited Nov 19 '22

Sure. It isn’t very complicated. Either vegetarian or vegan.

3-2-1 is the norm for gravy. Scale up. I usually figure 1C of broth per person because everyone likes leftovers.

3T flour, 2T butter (or equivalent,) 1 cup broth. I make my broth double strength with Knorr vegetable bouillon cubes dissolved in either water or milk in the microwave.

Sauté some finely diced onions or shallots and a few optional, desired herbs (rosemary or sage work well) in a TBL of butter. Set aside.

Make a quick roux with the flour and fat. Slowly stir in the liquid and cooked onions/shallots/herbs. Cook and stir until it gets thick. Finish with ground pepper.

Boom!

When reheating you may want to add some additional liquid like water or milk to thin it out.

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u/WhatMyWifeIsThinking Nov 19 '22

My husband's family recently lost the best damn gravy maker I've ever had the privilege of knowing. And somehow I've been voluntold to be in charge of the gravy this year. Thank you so much for this. No one has ever mentioned a 3-2-1 ratio before and always just winged it on my family's side. When I wing it, it's hit or miss, now I know why. And I've already got some Accent, so putting that in my back pocket as the secret ingredient.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '22

theyre not asking why it cant be recreated at home, theyre asking why no other restaurant can make croutons that good

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u/nyxmaris Nov 19 '22

I love adding bouillon to everything! What brand do you use??

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u/Talking_Head Nov 19 '22

Knorr. Exclusively. Unfortunately it seems to have been discontinued in the US. I order it off of Amazon but the quick expiration dates are a common complaint. No matter to me because I just freeze it which doesn’t seem to affect the flavor.

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u/GarglingMoose Nov 19 '22

Have you tried Better then Bouillon? Love that stuff. They have so many flavors, too.

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u/WhatMyWifeIsThinking Nov 19 '22

I have always used their chicken and beef jars. Knew they had a veggie option, but this year I saw a Turkey option on the shelf! I don't know if it's a new seasonal product or has always been offered, but sweet Jesus I've been wishing for this for years. So excited to try it!

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u/GarglingMoose Nov 20 '22

They have all sorts now. They've got roasted garlic, sauted onion, Italian herbs, lobster, ham, adobo, sofrito, chili, mushroom, and a few others.

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u/JustHereToLurk247 Nov 19 '22

Not sure if you live near a Polish deli, but they always sell Knorr bullion. My mom sends it to me from Chicago.

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u/galvinb1 Nov 19 '22

Would you mind sharing? I always make the packet brown gravy.

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u/lizardeater Nov 19 '22

Can you share recipe for veg gravy, i am not scared of MSG?

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u/liotto Nov 19 '22

Use to work there, we threw them in the deep fryer for a bit before they go out to the salad bar

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u/Robot_Embryo Nov 19 '22

Find an old Ruby Tuesdays GM and ask them who their food distributor was.

Odds are it came in a bag from a company like Sisco or Sexton

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u/Next_Affect9177 Nov 19 '22

Former GM here. It was PFG, Performance Food Group.

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u/Soleniae Nov 19 '22 edited Nov 19 '22

Rye bread, cubed (large-ish), fried, toss in a garlicsalt+pepper blend. Screw Ruby Tuesday as a company, but their fresh croutons are divine.

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u/Adolf_Titler Nov 19 '22

That bread and sweet butter was so good too.

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u/geriatric_spartanII Nov 30 '22

I hear they deep fry the croutons for the salad bar. I know the Mac and ham salad is half Mayo and half ranch dressing.