antiwork is still the more popular subreddit. For a bit after the infamous Fox News interview people thought workreform would take over but it didn't end up like that.
Letting bots fill your feed with angsty Twitter screens is not helping nor will it help you help. It will just make you more susceptible to propaganda.
Hey bud, I'm not active on /r/antiwork or anything, but every movement has got to start somewhere.
It was a bonehead move for the mod to ruin the sub's reputation on Fox. But that was exactly what Fox intended to happen. That subreddit was not seen as a joke (unless you were in a conservative circle) until after that interview.
Ironically, you're kind of susceptible to propaganda yourself. You fell for Fox's propaganda.
Oh, I don't really care about that incident. I have no respect for the sub because of its content. People sucking down unverifiable anecdotes and opinions on pedestals is just a wet dream for a propagandist. I always thought it was a bit of a joke because of how it presented information, but it has gotten WAY worse.
Quick edit: the entire front page right now is just screenshots of text. It's trash.
I fuckin loved that subreddit for the first couple months because it was full of legitimate complaints and strangers helping each other find better jobs in their area, helping people contact labor unions, informing people of labor rights violations that can be reported and who to report it to.
The original attitude on there was work reform, and then it turned into this idea that everyone should be able to live in a 5000 sq foot home with all the luxuries of life for nothing and complaints over mundane shit like "can you believe my boss made me sweep AND mop?! He's literally Hitler"
Sounds more like you fell for the media campaign to belittle workers rights. I'm still actively on there and worker form and unionizing is still the highest priority and upvoted comments
Uh no haha. I've been talking about the wage stagnation, disproportionate wealth distribution, nefarious real estate practices, the corporate conspiracies against unions and pensions and all the other ways normal Americans are being sodomized for the last decade.
I'm sorry, what exactly are the problems you think r/antiwork has and/or can solve when it's just a bunch of teenagers and young adults constantly complaining that not everything is just freely handed to them?
Edit: plenty of downvotes, yet nobody seems willing or able to explain how r/antiwork has actually solved a single problem for the working class. Interesting. Says a lot.
Lmao it's not even that, though. Those are things they should absolutely be getting.
Have you actually been to that sub? People there complain about the smallest, most ridiculous shit (when they're not threatening to EaT tHe RiCh lol). A bit overcast outside? How dare bosses make people work in such natural disaster conditions. Feeling a bit under the weather and have the sniffles but your boss wants you to come in? Human rights abuses!
You're really going to sit there and imply that I don't think workers should have basic rights and protections because I dare point out that a subreddit named ANTI WORK is full of people...checks notes...complaining about having to work? Okay bud lol.
No, he's not. That's the entire point of a strawman. Lmao. He's horribly misrepresenting the argument to suit his side.
Go ahead and look at the sub. Where are any of the posts that fit his rhetoric? Oh, right, there isn't any. Stop falling for Fox News propaganda. And even if there were posts that fit his comment, are you really taking the side that believes people should be risking their lives to work at the drive thru during a natural disaster like a hurricane? Lmao.
Yeah maybe learn what a strawman is, because that wasn't it. I was wrongly accused of holding a specific view (via passive aggressive sarcasm) so I explained my view in more detail.
Really showing the average r/antiwork user intelligence level, there. Lmao
Restaurants employ millions of Americans. If you need a job badly, working in a restaurant can be one of the few options that are readily available and easy to get.
You are quite literally arguing for poor labor conditions. Everyone has a right to a fair wage.
It's right in your statement, 'readily available, easy to get' that means practically anyone can do it (but since it sucks, there's high turnover which is why jobs are continuously available) which is why the pay is low.
I haven't worked at a restaurant since college, thanks. I just care about the working class. You are a part of the working class, if you have to be reminded.
I have no horse in this race. I haven't eaten out in 5 years. All I can say is that several other comments have confirmed that Olive Garden employees make between $20 and $40 per hour from tips, and are very happy with the current system.
Everyone complaining about the current system seems to be customers, who don't like having a 10% - 20% tax added on to the cost of their meal.
Which is fine. But changing the current system is for the benefit of the customer, not the staff.
Higher meal prices mean that customers are more likely to go to the competition. Fewer customers means less overall tips & pay for the staff.
Even if everything goes perfectly, the change to their base wage is relatively insignificant from what they currently make with tips.
Finally, both staff and employees feel that tips are a great way of filtering out people who are bad at the job. If you suck, you don't get enough tips to have a decent wage, and are basically forced to quit. Bad service means unhappy customers, and that hurts the overall reputation of the restaurant, and other staff want those people gone as quickly as possible, so it doesn't hurt their reputation.
One of my food friends is a chef at a high-end restaurant and has told me a lot about it over the years. And back of house staff ARE well paid at good restaurants. He told me that he routinely makes six figures after bonuses.
You’re assuming they would raise prices. That is not necessary. Like you said, it would encourage people to go to competition, so don’t do that. You’re also assuming tips would go away. That is also not necessary.
It is because I think the expectation is that if tipping goes away, and if server minimum wage (as low as a couple bucks an hour in some places) goes away and get replaced by normal minimum wage. Then serving in theory becomes another minimum wage job.
Basically if tipping goes away, then employers will still remain motivated to pay as little as possible as people are willing to work for. Maybe that will end up being above minimum wage, but I still doubt that will earn as good or better if we get rid of tipping.
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u/chromeVidrio Nov 19 '22
of course they are lol