r/interestingasfuck • u/AdministrativeMud907 • 7d ago

A girl saves her boyfriend from a robbery by pointing a machine gun at two armed robbers.(Texas) r/all

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u/garden_speech 7d ago

.... Right... So the law requiring registration has no impact on them...

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u/ctrlaltcreate 7d ago

Depending on the local laws, I don't think it's unreasonable to think that they can still be charged separately for possessing a restricted class of weapon, in addition to possessing a weapon at all though.

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u/garden_speech 7d ago

read the rest of the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haynes_v._United_States

The original Haynes decision continues to block state prosecutions of criminals who fail to register guns as required by various state law gun registration schemes.

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u/ctrlaltcreate 7d ago edited 7d ago

For the crime of failing to register, sure. I expect that those same individuals are being prosecuted fully on every other firearm count available to the prosecutors though.

To be clear, even as a liberal I'm very pro 2A. I just think there are far more nonsensical laws to get outraged about.

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u/dirtyredog 6d ago

His point isn't about every other count's statutes. Those laws exist. His point was about the registration law specifically being extraneous

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u/ctrlaltcreate 6d ago

Sure. Maybe I'm mistaken, but it seems to me that the reason he's frustrated with it being extraneous is the perception that registration is nonsensical as a result because felons can't be prosecuted for it.

The validity of registration laws aside (I note the historical perils vis a vis weapon seizure from otherwise lawful citizens), they can perform other "useful" functions when it comes to determining who can own what kind of weapon and crime prevention. NFA is an example with an indisputable track record for success in that regard. Whatever the reasons--the extra steps, expense, and restrictios--legally possessed NFA weapons are only very rarely used in the commission of crimes.

It's kind of a win-win. With NFA, legal citizens get to own the weapons they want, and the authorities benefit because those weapons are unlikely to contribute to the "gun violence" problem.

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u/hennyl0rd 7d ago

because it can't apply to them....again not a loophole

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u/garden_speech 7d ago

you are the only person who has ever used the word loophole in this conversation.

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u/hennyl0rd 7d ago

then what was the point of your OP comment, you phrased it as if felons can get away with it because they can't register implying a "loophole"

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u/garden_speech 7d ago

then what was the point of your OP comment, you phrased it as if felons can get away with it

No, I said that the NFA registration doesn't apply to felons, which I think is funny.

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u/hennyl0rd 7d ago

its doens't apply becasue it CANT apply, they get arrested for possesion, how can you register something that you own illegally?

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u/garden_speech 7d ago

I genuinely don't know how many ways to say that I understand that. Like, I'm running out of possible sentences to construct where I say "yes, I fucking get it, it can't apply because of the 5th amendment, I find that funny, that's my entire point". Are you trolling me at this point?

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u/hennyl0rd 7d ago

not sure why your getting worked up and hostile, im only responding because from your replies it seems like you don't understand, you op comment and replies assumes felons can get away with not registering and you also went on a tanget about registering being moot (not that its just funny) im just saying its redundant and actually enforces stricter gun control than not