r/facepalm 5d ago

Why is he even allowed to compete? 🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​

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u/Impossible-Error166 5d ago

It really tics me off when I hear that oh there future will be unproportionally effected so we will lower the sentence.

I cannot help but feel the more high profile you are the more it should effect you as you area role model.

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u/PatientDue8406 5d ago

Generally speaking I support a system where once you serve your sentence that you can move on. If you steal a car at 18 and do your time it probably shouldn't still be negatively impacting your life at 35 if you have remained a law abiding citizen. This opinion changes when an adult rapes a child, they show no remorse, don't seem to understand they did something wrong and only served a quarter of their actual sentence.

But no matter what a convicted rapist should never ever ever ever ever be allowed to represent their country at the Olympics.

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u/jimbojangles1987 5d ago

I think the difference is whether you were a danger to other people or animals or not. If your crime didn't put anyone else in danger, then after you serve your time and pay back society, then you should be able to move on without being weighed down by past mistakes.

However, if you've ever put anyone else in danger, then it's only fair for everyone else that has to be around you to be aware of that potential danger for the rest of your life.

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u/HydreigonTheChild 5d ago

i mean even with car accidents or smth that lands you in jail people will still believe that once you are locked up once you should just be locked up because you are a danger that doesnt benefit society (like 99% of the time people believe this)

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u/CaptainPryk 5d ago

Rapists and pedophiles should definitely be branded and shamed for life. They are corrupting one of, if not the most intimate and important interaction humans do with one another. Victims, children and adults alike, are forever traumatized and affected for their rest of their lives. The punishment should be proportionate, and 4 years ain't it

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u/dudelikeshismusic 4d ago

Yeah I've always felt that murderers, rapists, and people who commit acts of torture deserve publicity beyond other convicts. With most crimes (fraud, theft, etc.) I think we can all come up with a hypothetical scenario in which we could be the ones put in the situation in which we feel the need to commit that crime. If I didn't grow up with good opportunities in my life, then maybe I would have felt the need to find financial opportunities via unethical means.

Murder, rape, and torture are so heinous that a "regular" person cannot come up with a scenario in which they would commit those acts under any circumstances.

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u/La_Saxofonista 4d ago edited 4d ago

I loved doing the big/little program at my high school. Some of us got assigned a middle schooler to mentor for two weeks in exchange for extra credit.

The kid I got had a learning disability, so I took decided to teach him how to tie his shoes for the first time. He was so happy, and his parents were proud of him since he had only worn velcro up to that point. My brother has a similar learning disability, so I had some knowledge on how to get through to him.

His family couldn't afford specialists to teach him some of these minor things, so what I did was game-changing for them. After the two weeks were up, I'd regularly visit throughout the rest of my school years and teach him other things he wanted to learn. He was very well-behaved but just struggled to learn how to do things that involved fine motor controls beyond writing.

I still see him around when I'm home from college, and he's thriving from what his family has told me. He's a foot taller than me now, but he will always be my little guy. He brought out the best parts of me at a time where I was severely depressed. His eagerness to learn and finally make a friend melted my cold, well-shielded heart when nothing else could (besides my dog).

However, boundaries were set and made clear. I was never alone with him at any point and we always had a third party supervising during the two weeks. His mom was always home when I started visiting him afterwards, and she was always within earshot. The few times I got him gifts were always related to what I taught him. When he learned to tie his shoes, I went out and got him a pair of laced shoes that fit him so his parents wouldn't have to spend extra money than they had already budgeted for that month.

I couldn't imagine doing what this sick bastard did.

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u/ApoloRimbaud 5d ago

To put it simply: allowing a convicted child rapist who doesn't show any remorse in an extremely over-sexed environment where there are actual minors competing in some sports (the Olympic Village) is a recipe for disaster and a police report waiting to happen.

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u/Impossible-Error166 5d ago

So you don't support a system where once you serve your sentence you are forgiven, instead you support a system where crime below a certain threshold of harm is forgiven after a certain period of time.

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u/seattleseahawks2014 4d ago

Only some crimes can be forgiven.

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u/Opposite-Occasion332 5d ago

They never seem to consider how rape ruins the future of the victim and letting rapist out leaves victims in fear everyday.

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u/Rex_Xenovius_1998 5d ago

It ruins them mentally. It was a while ago when I heard this, so I don’t remember where it came from, but a guy was raped by his babysitter when he was 10 multiple times, it was when he was thirteen that his parents found out what was going on. It was horrifying because this babysitter was a close friend of the mom. After that, he couldn’t keep a stable relationship no matter what he did, it didn’t help that no matter who he told this, they would either say how lucky he was that a woman would do that to someone his age or that he should man up. Rape at a young age can mess anyone up no matter what gender they are, even in their adult years.

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u/Opposite-Occasion332 5d ago

I’m so sorry about your friend. I was raped at 17 so a bit older, but my self esteem and trust is still ruined from it. I wish I could go back to my old self a lot of the times but he robbed that from me years ago.

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u/Rex_Xenovius_1998 5d ago

He’s not a friend, not even someone I met. I just read it from the internet somewhere a couple of years ago, but it stuck to me when I read it, I still remember it. Even though I myself haven’t gone through it, It’s still hurt my soul that someone went through something like that.

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u/Opposite-Occasion332 5d ago

It’s something I couldn’t even wish upon my worst enemy that’s for sure.

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u/Rex_Xenovius_1998 5d ago

I would just wanna cut out the thing that made these people wanna violate others. These people need to understand that it doesn’t matter who you are or what position you’re in, forcing yourself on others is not your right.

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u/teacup1749 4d ago

It’s so hard to get a conviction in the first place too. The odds are completely stacked against a victim. If the state actually manages to get a conviction, why on earth would a judge give such a small sentence and the state let them out so early?

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u/CaricaIntergalaktiki 4d ago

This one really pisses me off. They always focus on the theoretical future of the rapists, but never on the future of the victims. How many victims were good at sports, at arts, at whatever, how many of us had great plans for our future and got that taken from us?

Maybe these shitheads should have thought about their oh so bright future before deciding to rape people. They had that choice, their victims did not.

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u/EbMinor33 4d ago

With absolutely no consideration for the fact that the actions of the rapist forever ruined the future of another person. Like, she will be carrying that trauma for the rest of her fucking life, and she's already come close to ending it. But with the young white athletic men it's always "we wouldn't want this to affect your future"

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u/tonydanzaoystercanza 4d ago

And the weirdest thing is that it’s a male volleyball player. Strange that anyone even gives enough of a shit to be swayed by that dim of a star lol.

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u/Phantasmal 4d ago

I think it should be entirely based on the victim. You're forgiven whenever they are entirely whole again.

If they never fully recover, neither are you ever fully forgiven.