r/XboxSeriesX May 17 '24

(Insider Gaming) Microsoft To Make Changes To Xbox Game Pass Tiers Because Of Call Of Duty, It’s Claimed Rumor

https://insider-gaming.com/microsoft-to-make-changes-to-xbox-game-pass-tiers-because-of-call-of-duty-its-claimed/
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u/pukem0n May 17 '24

So what comes above ultimate? Super duper? Guessing an ad based tier will come as well. Watch an ad every 15 minutes or so would be too weird for me.

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u/Feeling_Cherry5174 May 17 '24

Plus ultra

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u/BoBoBearDev Founder May 17 '24

One for all

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u/Lanzerspear May 18 '24

All for one… absurdly high price.

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u/HelikaeonUK May 18 '24

One Above All ?

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u/HoodieEmbiid May 17 '24

Sounding like tampon sizes now

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u/antftwx May 17 '24

Game Pass Extra Long Overnight lol

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u/Tacdeho May 17 '24

Fuck yeah, episode 1 in English drops tomorrow on Crunchyroll. My heart’s needed some more MHA

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u/PlayBey0nd87 May 18 '24

Autonomous Ultra Instinct

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u/-Ravenzfire- May 17 '24

Ultimatum

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u/arlondiluthel Ambassador May 17 '24

Ultima.

Oh, wait...

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u/stranded May 17 '24

Game Pass Ultimate Series Plus XP

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u/BoBoBearDev Founder May 17 '24

XP ftw

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u/kyrow123 May 18 '24

GamePass Vista?!? Anyone…

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u/Cool_Bit1474 May 18 '24

Hahaha knowing Microsofts history with naming their Xbox consoles in years past, I can definitely see them coming up with some ridiculous new name for their game pass tiers lol

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u/mancatdoe May 17 '24

It's all my speculation, I think Ultimate increases and there a middle tier that replaces ultimate.

Ultimate gets COD and Day1 title as well as all Day 1 Xbox where other tier may get a delay.

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u/Griftimus-X May 17 '24

I can see this - like a bronze tier to replace core, ultimate could be platinum and a new tier called gold that would remove PC gamepass and 'select' day one titles.

And by 'select' I mean the ones that everyone wants and drive sales

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u/Aced4remakes May 17 '24

Mate, they should just go back to using bronze, silver and gold like they did a long time ago. It's what Xbox Live Gold was named for.

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u/HornsOvBaphomet May 18 '24

That would suck for someone like me, who games on PC and Xbox and doesn't care at all about shooters, especially COD.

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u/JozuJD May 18 '24

Getting rid of Xbox “day 1” at any tier completely kills the offer and the brand (more than it is already being killed)

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u/Aquatic-Vocation May 18 '24

Microsoft has really been taking advantage of that new trend of time-gating the release date behind deluxe editions. I think you're right in that there'll be a premium tier above the current premium tier that will get you access on release date.

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u/Glup-Shitto69 May 18 '24

I would hate that very much since idgaf about pretty much any online game and having to pay more for the sake of those so I can play all those single player games is simple horrible.

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u/Conflict_NZ May 17 '24

They can't interject ads into games not made for them, would have to be before the game starts up.

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u/EnamoredAlpaca May 17 '24

I would quit gaming if this became a thing.

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u/snakebeater21 May 17 '24

I’d just go back to my PS2 and PS3 lol.

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u/EnamoredAlpaca May 17 '24

Very true. I already play my Saturn, and ps2 more then my series X.

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u/heisenberg00 May 17 '24

I still play my PS3 a lot. Lately I’ve been playing it more than my PS4.

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u/snakebeater21 May 17 '24

Tbf PS3 is the only console that has Metal Gear Solid 4

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u/Conflict_NZ May 17 '24

You could just not get gamepass?

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u/EcstaticCinematic May 18 '24

Hello "Ready Player One"

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u/Xenotrickx May 17 '24

Gamepass Deluxe Ultimate Sigma Rizz

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u/xDefimate Craig May 17 '24

If game company’s ever implement ads into my gaming experience that’s the day I quit.

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u/UweDerGeschmeidige May 17 '24

Journey to the Salvage Planet

But this time they ain't sarcastic about gaming, they are serious about these ads and it's not only for entertainment. Mark my words, the people in charge of the most devs aren't gamers anymore and don't care a bit about us. Only about new way's to improve their income with less and less quality and care.

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u/RockNDrums May 17 '24

A console start ad is one thing.

Watch an ad every 15 miles while playing crosses the line.

GTA VI finally releases. GTA VI takes up to 15 minutes to boot. Finally boots into first mission and watch a ad.

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u/ksj May 18 '24

I would say console start ads already cross the line.

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u/system_reboot May 17 '24

Probably something ridiculous like “battle pass” tier

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u/RobertdBanks May 18 '24

“COD tier”

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u/sendnudestocheermeup May 17 '24

That would be absurd and never happen.

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u/BitingSatyr May 17 '24

Yeah but imagine how mad I could get at it hypothetically happening

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u/arlondiluthel Ambassador May 17 '24

I could see them adding a "Core + CoD" tier for people who are only really interested in playing CoD. I think it'd be a bad move for them to raise the price of GPU simply because CoD and/or ABK titles were added.

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u/Stumpy493 May 17 '24

I reckon you might be onto something. A tier to tempt the cod only fans in.

If you only buy cod then getting gpu doesn't make sense.

$208 a year for ultimate

$70 + $120 a year for the game and gamepass core

I could see them increasing the base gamepass console price and dropping in a cod only tier between core and console.

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u/MasterLogic May 17 '24

Why would cod only players want to pay $208 a year when cod is $70 one off.

Hardcore cod players won't be playing other games, the series has been out 20 years, we know they don't care about other stuff. 

If they don't already have gamepass, they aren't going to get gamepass with the prices going up. That just makes for a more expensive cod. 

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u/Tuxedo38 May 17 '24

They need Game Pass Core to play CoD multiplayer.

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u/Stymie999 May 18 '24

For one, if they are on Xbox they are already going to pay $120 if that $208. As for if they only ever play COD, then yes just like any other game if a person only ever played only that…. It doesn’t make sense

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u/retroheads May 18 '24

I cod…. I care.

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u/arlondiluthel Ambassador May 17 '24

XBL Gold was $9.99/mo (same price as current GP Core)... $70/12 is $5.83... I can totally see $15/mo as a reasonable "Core + CoD" tier. I honestly don't think other tiers need to be messed with.

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u/Thin21Mints May 18 '24

I pay $59/year for Core. How is it $120?

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u/culminacio May 18 '24

If you know you're gonna gett GamePass Core for a whole year, there's no reason to pay that much. You can buy a 12 month subscription on Amazon for half the price.

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u/Stumpy493 May 17 '24

Personally I would be happy not to have to pay anything for Cod that I am not 8nterested in playing.

But I can't help think that Microsoft are missing a trick with the huge amount of players Gamepass would add who would be likely to spend on microtransaction that will no doubt be rife.

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u/immortality20 May 17 '24

Xbox and missing opportunities, name a more iconic duo.

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u/ArbitratorTyler May 17 '24

Microsoft in general lol

Zune, Kinect, Windows Phone... They are always ahead of their time but don't know how to capitalize on it. For all their "progressivism/liberalism" they really just lack the ability to take advantage of what they pioneer.

Same thing is happening with the HoloLens. They released an awe inspiring video detailing the future of augmented reality and they are letting all these other companies take their idea and get more recognition.

And with how popular mobile games are, the fact they haven't doubled down and made an Xbox handheld device or at least really pushed into Xbox being "played anywhere" is crazy. I'm surprised they aren't trying to incorporate Steam into being accessed on Xbox with all this Crossplay they keep pushing.

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u/Lilslysapper May 17 '24

They have done some neat stuff with their tech outside of gaming. Kinect has become an effective motion tracker for security applications. HoloLens is in use by the US Military. It is kind of frustrating that the gaming side never took off because Kinect had potential, and they HoloLens demo with Minecraft looked sick.

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u/MasterLogic May 17 '24

Didn't they fire everyone in the kinect department last year? I swear they shut them down alongside the ar department. 

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u/Reasonable-Writer730 May 18 '24

kinect department

Only last year? I thought that area of the company would have been shuttered sooner

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u/ArchdukeOfNorge May 17 '24

Steam on Xbox is actually a current possibility. It would be genius though, although they’d have to relax their mod restrictions or find a user agreement loophole that kept them from being liable in any way for modded content. Although I don’t believe I’ve ever seen any explicit sexual mods for games on the steam workshop

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u/DoneWithIt0101 May 18 '24

That might sell hardware, but they already take a loss on that. They'd have to come up with a way to get some of the profit from Steam, otherwise they wouldn't make anything from that either.

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u/maethor Founder May 18 '24

although they’d have to relax their mod restrictions or find a user agreement loophole that kept them from being liable in any way for modded content.

Or just use the Hypervisor that the Xbox already has to run Windows 11.

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u/superdavit May 18 '24

Skype has entered the chat.

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u/Joethe147 May 18 '24

HoloLens

The Meta Quest 3 has some great mixed reality stuff, and I think a few other headsets might do some mixed reality. Where's Microsoft with anything like what HoloLens offered in those demos years ago?

And now I've said that, I just looked it up and discovered they do sell the HoloLens 2.

I've not heard of this until today and never heard of the first one. Not seen any ads. But I saw ads for the Meta Quest 2 before I got one a few years, obviously the Apple one too and others like Pico.

But never even heard of Microsoft's device until now. They need to do better marketing.

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u/Auth3nticRory May 18 '24

Zune and Windows Phone were not ahead of their time. They were reactive products. They saw the success of Android and iOS and said “hey, we can get in on that” and it turns out that developers don’t want to code for 3 separate OS’s. Same with Zune. It was a fine product but launched into a saturated market.

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u/surfazer May 18 '24

Windows Mobile was the predecessor of Windows Phone. It was in the market way before Android or iOS. Windows Phone was a new version of Windows Mobile with a new different kernel. It was more of a chicken-egg problem due to apps and users.

They should've kept the backward compatibility of Windows Mobile on Windows Phone, Windows Phone 8/8.1 should've been the new iteration, Microsoft should've made porting Android and iOS apps easy( which they did later, project Astoria etc) and not stubborn on metro apps. Windows Phone had huge potential, but Microsoft was never serious.

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u/DOUBLEBARRELASSFUCK May 18 '24

Original Windows Phone was ahead of its time. Then it fell behind.

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u/CaptainBaseball May 18 '24

I loved Microsoft’s confidence with the Zune that the audience wanted their iPod knockoff to be…brown. I think they thought it would accessorize with brown briefcases.

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u/wowzabob May 17 '24

The problem is COD players don't play anything else, tbh I don't think their propensity to pay for dlc and addons for other game pass games is high enough to justify just adding it to gamepass.

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u/caufield88uk May 18 '24

That's not the right way of thinking it.

So those gamers who dont like Halo and Forza had to pay gamepass for those games. but suddenly just cause you dont like a game you disagree with paying for it to be in gamepass?

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u/Stumpy493 May 18 '24

You misunderstand me.

I think MS should put it in standard gamepass/ultimate.

But if they charge extra for cod it doesn't bother me as I wouldn't be paying for it.

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u/NewKitchenFixtures May 18 '24

Kind of, COD is established though. I don’t necessarily think the people who don’t play it feel that it is an unknown quantity.

Roblox/Fortnite/Minecraft is really where the users are at, so that makes Gamepass a hard sell to a lot of people.

My kids and their friends mostly don’t have any interest in Gamepass because console moderation doesn’t work for teens. Only games that are social and 30+ other players are of interest.

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u/DARK_SCIENTIST May 17 '24 edited May 17 '24

I was fine with one price hike but depending on what this means for the future, I’m sure a lot of players besides myself will potentially reconsider the worth of their subscription versus buying stuff on sale in a more targeted fashion etc.

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u/sigilnz May 17 '24

I don't play cod so hopefully it's roughly neutral for me...

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u/Bfife22 May 18 '24

Yeah if MS decides to change which first party games come with my existing ultimate subscription, then I’m cancelling and will just wait until they go on sale, or wait until another game has my attention and I end up not buying it in the first place.

They will be gaining revenue from COD sales on PlayStation and all the microtransactions. Adding a new gamepass tier above ultimate for COD on top of that would be insulting.

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u/dinofreak6301 May 17 '24 edited May 18 '24

Gonna take a wild guess:

PC Game Pass

Edit: Game Pass Console

Xbox Game Pass Core

Xbox Game Pass Ultimate (EA Play+PC GP)

Xbox Game Pass insert name (EA Play+PC GP+Call of Duty)

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u/pukem0n May 17 '24

Xbox Game Pass Mega

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u/SportingGames May 17 '24

Xbox Game Pass Supreme

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u/OrganicKeynesianBean May 17 '24

Does this include pepperonis?

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u/bonemonkey12 May 17 '24

Nah, they're teaming up with Pepsi and Yum brands, so supreme like taco bell.... tomatoes and sour cream

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u/-Anonymously- May 18 '24

Yeah but it also has olives and mushrooms

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u/Hammer_Octipus May 17 '24

Game Pa$$ Electric Bugalow 2? /s

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u/Wallitron_Prime May 17 '24

To properly follow Digimon it should go Rookie, Champion, Ultimate, and Mega

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u/Illmattic May 17 '24

I feel like it would have to be more than just call of duty to necessitate a whole new tier. I think most people would just buy a copy of call of duty instead of increasing their sub for a rental.

I’m wondering if a wow sub will go in with it, or maybe Diablo expansion. Not sure, I just can’t see a whole new tier just for cod

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u/dccorona May 17 '24

COD + all expansions and season passes for all 1P titles (and select 3P) might do it, but I still don't think I'd buy that.

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u/ACCESSx_xGRANTED May 17 '24 edited May 18 '24

that WOULD be a good deal, if not for the fact that game pass generally does not include season passes or expansions in the lineup. it usually just includes the base game. and if microsoft decides to make an exception with COD and include everything, then it will just piss off everyone else who doesnt get access to the dlc for the games they do like that arent COD.

microsoft playing favoritism with COD will be bad for PR, especially since its a newly-adopted franchise that they paid for and not an xbox staple.

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u/Logan_Yes May 17 '24

If it's only COD's then I sure as hell ain't upgrading over Ultimate

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u/Kraken_Eggs May 17 '24

Ultimate better be the top tier. If they make all of us that are currently “upgrade” to a higher tier, I’d be pissed. I currently have 2+ years on my ultimate membership. If I have to “upgrade” to take full advantage of game pass, that’s fucking dumb.

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u/Tuxedo38 May 17 '24

They'll probably raise the price of Ultimate to like $20 and then have a middle tier for like $15 that doesn't get day one games for a few months.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '24

XBOX GAME PASS INFINITE AND BEYOND

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u/Wipedout89 May 17 '24

Game Pass U

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u/Billy_Beavertooth May 17 '24

I think it would include all Activision & Blzzard games in the top tier, not just COD

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u/Slacker_75 May 17 '24

lol then no thanks. Fuck COD

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u/darthbacon12 May 17 '24

Don’t forget the Ubisoft subscription

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u/Solipsi2021 May 17 '24

Honestly they can take the EA subscription and add it to the max tier as well if it means lowering the mid tier. I'd like to keep access to my 1st party titles, but I have no interest in Activision or EA titles.

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u/MasterLogic May 17 '24

You realise you'll be paying more while getting less if they remove what you're getting, and at the same time add it to create a new higher tier, while putting the price up.

They aren't going to lower the cost for you by putting things above you, that's not how businesses work. 

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u/nakabra May 17 '24

Xbox thought they had bought Activision.
Turns out Activision owns Xbox now.
That thing is a parasite...

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u/Pearse_Borty May 17 '24

Activision ate Blizzard alive, its like a symbiote or some shit. I dont know what it is with Activision management but they are some of the most aggressive and manipulative in the industry. Every time they quickly assume the position to twist the knife their way, its uncanny.

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u/Ok-Confusion-202 May 17 '24

I mean what happened was Xbox got them for 70b+ and MS now wants them to actually make money, a company that, while people hate it, makes a ton of money is Activision, so what I'm seeing is that Xbox is trying the Act approach of pumping out big games, and the smaller gets won't exist or will happen rarely

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u/TheHolyFatherPasty May 17 '24

Let's not pretend Blizzard wasn't already riding the line pretty close with every other awful company

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u/Kraken_Eggs May 17 '24

People said the same thing with Destiny 2. “Bungie” was forced to be greedy because of Activision. Bungie is still greedy as hell under Sony. Bungie infected Activision!

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u/ewalker302 May 19 '24

Nah, I loved destiny so so much it killed me how bungie relentlessly deliberately slowly & steadily suckified everything. They did it to themselves. I was literally obsessed with destiny1, for the longest..... The way it is now, I mean who even gives a shit anymore.

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u/wombo_combo12 May 17 '24

McDonnell Douglas and Boeing acquisition all over again lol

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u/Indacloudz420 May 17 '24

Fuck COD. If this ups my game pass, I’m just fucking canceling.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '24

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u/[deleted] May 18 '24

Probably, my steam library is crying right now anyway

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u/everythingbeeps May 17 '24

Lol who didn't see this coming.

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u/Nor-Cal-Son May 17 '24

I'm not about to pay 20 bucks for gamepass. Seriously. I'm pretty done

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u/immortality20 May 17 '24

Feels like this subscription will become too expensive to keep for me. As is I might play a few hours a week, most on games not on this service. However it "seems" worth it when promised first party games on release. But if they introduce ads or bump it $5 more for fucking CoD I am out. It's hard enough to justify this service and console but might as well fuck us over some more.

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u/Any-Newspaper1922 May 18 '24 edited May 18 '24

Yeah theres too many companies out there all looking to siphon our money every month for less and less value as time goes by. I already canceled my gamepass. got better things i could be doing than paying for online access, the extremely rare xbox exclusive (that are rarely interesting to me) or the hundred indie pixel games i dont wanna play.

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u/Bfife22 May 18 '24

Cable TV used to be the worst, people started cancelling and moving on to streaming. Now almost every business is trying to turn into a subscription with ads, basically mirroring what cable used to be. It’s either going to hit a breaking point eventually, or become completely normalized and we’ll never own anything.

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u/Any-Newspaper1922 May 18 '24

They can keep trying but eventually people will have to see that they cant afford all this. itll end up being a subscription class-divide. Want to be able to participate in culture? Sure, just make sure you can afford a sub for every website, news, tv, gaming, and who knows what else is next. Everything propped up on the backs of real life whales.

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u/Boozenosnooz May 19 '24

IMO Gamepass kinda feels not worth it to me anymore. I've played most of the games on there that interest me and it's been difficult for me to even keep Gamepass for day one first party games the past few years when that perk hasn't been great. We went over a year straight with no releases and most releases we have had the last few years have been abysmal.

Now with COD and Actiblizz I'm sure the price is going up. Once that happens I'm peacing out of the service.

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u/CFB_NE_Huskers May 17 '24

My 3 year conversion of gamepass expires this July. I'm already considering not rejoining considering how little I used it or tried different games. There were a few surprises. But don't know if it's worth it.

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u/ISD1982 May 17 '24

Same. I've zero interest in Call of Duty, and if the price increases because of this one series I'm not bothering to renew come next year

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u/arqe_ May 17 '24

Yeah, people need to understand what you are doing and stop thinking like only way to play games is Gamepass.

Are you interested playing different games and get surprised? GamePass is for you.

You only looking for AAA Blockbusters? Might not be for you.

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u/MySunbreakAccount May 17 '24

I mean if you are looking for AAA Blockbusters Xbox in general might not be for you

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u/Krucble May 17 '24

Definitely missing the $1 for several months days

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u/Eglwyswrw May 18 '24

Insider Gaming is usually this lazy. They get wrong years-old and well-known facts, imagine their accuracy on leaks.

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u/BX293A May 17 '24

As someone who doesn’t play COD, a price increase would really give me that shove I need to unplug from GamePass.

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u/JefferyTheQuaxly May 17 '24

my prediction: for ultimate tier theyre going to up price by a dollar or two or three and give it a minimum 3 month subscription renewal.

edit: also not ruling out they may add a third tier or a middle tier between core and ultimate while upping price of ultimate.

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u/pukem0n May 17 '24

I can really see them making the lowest length to three months. So people don't subscribe for a month and cancel to play a brand new game.

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u/darkdeath174 May 17 '24

There is already a third tier

It's Core, Game Pass, and Ultimate and a 4th if you count PC.

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u/KidGoku1 May 17 '24

The only game I played in last 6 months is Palworld.

Only Xbox game I played was over a year ago HiFi Rush.

I'm sure i'm not the only one. It's a great service but as a casual player content isn't attractive enough for me. Maybe it's enough for the hardcore. I'm a Xbox fan since day 1 but I gotta admit PlayStations subscription service was far better this month. They had EAFC24, RDR2 and more. Palworld aside gamepass content has been dreadful this year to be honest. If MS wants gamepass to really take off they need to follow the Netflix route of over-investing over short term gains. Gamepass needs a new AAA game release every month. 1 every quarter isn't enough to grow the way they want. Which makes the closure of Tango even more painful as this means less quality content. HiFi Rush had one thing Xbox severely lacks, a likeable and loveable new IP. Xbox needed MORE of them not less.

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u/Tyrantes Founder May 17 '24

What if day and date are Ultimate only?

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u/NewUser2656 May 17 '24

The new release being Ultimate exclusive would be the best outcome honestly... But I only care about the old ones so anyways... 🤷

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u/wolfmaster177 May 17 '24

Xbox, please don’t follow Netflix and all these other corporation scumbags. Keep the same subscription model.

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u/TheFlexOffenderr May 18 '24

Well tug on my testicles and color me surprised. 🙄

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u/Evilscotsman30 May 17 '24

Depending on how greedy they’re going to be it may just be the final push to make me switch to playstation. Game pass and quick resume are probably the only good things xbox has going for it lol.

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u/ChewieHanKenobi May 17 '24

The party is over

Time for Microsoft to ruin the one last good thing they have going in gamepass

It was really good while it lasted

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u/TangerineDiesel May 17 '24

It’s happening right as my stacked subscription is finally running out at the end of the year. Had a great run!

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u/goli14 May 18 '24

It will be called Xbox Game Pass X

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u/furaii May 17 '24

Am I the only one who sees this as a huge fail from Xbox’s part if true? I thought the whole point of these acquisitions was to make gamepass better, not to allow them to charge more for it.

If they start this shit with cod, I’m cancelling my gamepass, as great of deal gamepass is at the moment, I’m not supporting shit like this.

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u/PoohTrailSnailCooch May 18 '24

Corporate greed is really hurting gaming.

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u/crahamgrackered May 17 '24

Honestly don't know if I'll renew game pass. I have it for another year, having done the three year trick when that was an option. I have definitely gone weeks without using it. Giving MS $18+ a month to spin their wheels and close studios will leave a bad taste in my mouth and I suspect it will for many others.

I think a lot rides on the next COD. After Starfield underperforming as badly as it did, this needs to be a banger, or I will have real skepticism about Xbox's viability going forward. I say this as someone with a 17 year old account.

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u/sahils88 May 17 '24

But how much wrong can you go with CoD. It will sell nonetheless.

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u/crahamgrackered May 17 '24

True enough but 2023 was the first time they didn't reach the top 10 games sold list since 09.

I'm not saying it'll be an immediate financial disaster but the point is the Xbox brand is probably at its lowest point since the XB1 launch and they need something to turn around the optics before the next console generation. If MS can't even get COD right why would anyone get an Xbox Series Z or whatever they want to call it?

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u/Glittering-Bee-8954 May 18 '24

2023 was the first time they didn't reach the top 10 games sold list since 2009

It was the first time they weren't number 1 best selling since 2009. Iirc COD was #2 most copies sold after Hogwarts in 2023

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u/MasterLogic May 17 '24

Selling well and being fun are two different things, you want to buy a 3 hour campaign that was listed as a dlc in the files for full price?

It can definitely go wrong, because a lot of people will be burnt by that and won't be buying day 1, or ever again. 

Ww2 was the last acti blizz game I purchased, haven't felt like I've missed out and it's saved me a lot of money to buy other games that are vastly more fun. 

When you burn players your future sales suffer. Like the other guy said, they didn't make the top 10 list. They can definitely fail as time goes on. 

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u/Meiie Founder May 17 '24

I think I’m off the whole Xbox thing after my sub to gamepass ends. I just don’t like where any of this is going.

Between what I’ve gotten this gen and what’s coming, it’s just not worth it.

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u/thedinnerdate Founder May 17 '24

Seems like this would be a pretty big slap in the face to game pass (esp ultimate) subscribers imo.

I thought the whole point of MS buying these properties was to attract more people to GP with bigger tent pole games included in their library?

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u/DEEZLE13 May 17 '24

More rumors from “insiders” that have proven they’re aren’t as “inside” as they say?

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u/arqe_ May 17 '24

Yeah but making claims vs. Xbox/Microsoft, you are golden with clicks no matter who you are.

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u/Eglwyswrw May 18 '24

Insider Gaming is wrong 80% of the time and its pieces are generally low effort (article above literally forgets Game Pass Console exists).

They are probably right on this one though, Xbox's lethargic months-long pace to add the ABK catalog (whereas Bethesda's was added within days of acquisition finishing) must mean a major shake-up.

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u/Mako__Junkie May 17 '24

Maybe they shift day and date Gamepass to Ultimate only and increase the price.

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u/MannyThorne May 17 '24

"For a one time fee of $70 and then $15 a month you can get COD Pass Ultimate!"

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u/ArbitratorTyler May 17 '24

I'm tired of companies creeping up in price without really having anything worthwhile. All these streaming services are doing the same thing so its basically becoming cable/satellite TV again.

I think Game Pass should be a feature and not the name of the service personally. Microsoft always has a weird naming scheme like Apple lol. You want people talking about Xbox, not Xbox series pro ultra smooth tornado.

Xbox Super $5 - Allows online play

Xbox Ultra $10 - includes Super benefits - Works for all systems, Xbox, PC and Mobile. - Standard game pass

Xbox Supreme $15 - includes Ultra benefits - Includes all big Publisher services: EA Play, Ubisoft plus, etc... - Day 1 releases of new games

Xbox Ultimate $20 - Includes Supreme benefits - adds 1 TB of Cloud Storage for OneDrive to store your game clips and screenshots - includes 20% discount to external Game Subscriptions (Fallout 1st, ESO Plus, DCUO Membership, WoW game time, FFXIV game time, SWTOR game time, etc...) - become an Xbox Elite, able to participate in ad-sponsored competitive tournaments to win prizes and glory. Tournaments are composed of highly competitive games such as Warzone, CoD, Halo, League of Legends, Fortnite, and more... - Xbox Elite keeps track of your ranking which can be displayed on your profile. To participate in tournaments, you must agree to stream your gameplay through whatever service the tournament requires (Twitch, Kick, etc...)

Simple as that. You don't own the games and are basically renting it so there is no point in the price ever going above $20. The best MMO's are all $15 or less a month so Xbox really shouldn't ever be above that. You have to keep the barrier to entry low to keep money coming in.

Xbox Ultimate allows people to become an Xbox Elite if they so choose, and gets Microsoft into the competitive scene/E-Sports full force. You could even start seeing tournaments take off like the Super Bowl. People could start watching them, betting on them, etc...

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u/PineWalk1 May 18 '24

lol fuck off, fix the matchmaking first. who even wants this husk of a series.

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u/innocentxv May 18 '24

X pass series X

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u/No_Hospital_2149 May 18 '24

I already dropped ult 17$ a month fuck thay

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u/Mt264 May 18 '24

Can we have a cheaper one with no CoD please?

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u/Fudgiebrown May 17 '24

Did they even have a strategy for all of this? Every decision feels so disjointed and reactionary - like they're just figuring it out as they go. It's giving off sequel trilogy vibes from Star Wars.

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u/rccaldwell85 May 17 '24

Just another excuse to raise prices. A bunch of twats

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u/megaloturd May 17 '24

I hate to say it guys, but I think I’m getting a PlayStation next gen. Game pass is all right but I never paid full price for it, and I’m assuming most people never did. We all used the loophole (you know which one I’m talking about) and now they have closed it. I would never pay full price for game pass back when it was cheap, and I certainly won’t now, especially if it’s more expensive and with ads.

My game pass ultimate expires in 2025, I probably won’t renew, unless there is another loophole, and if there isn’t I will probably move over to ps or pc. Buying games ain’t that bad and if I’m being completely honest 80% of the games on game pass are just weird kid games or side scrollers. They are the dregs of the gaming world. We want good games, not LITTLE KITTY BIG CITY ffs.

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u/lucax55 May 17 '24

This is confusing because people who play Cod generally stick to one or two other games. So paying for the max subscription wouldn't make sense for a casual gamer. They also likely have a PS5.

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u/technobeeble May 17 '24

"Best value in gaming"

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u/JTMx29 May 18 '24

Not interested. Already cancelled last month.

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u/we_made_yewww May 17 '24

So many people convinced it'll be a tier above ultimate. A price hike on ultimate and a new tier below makes more sense to me.

Plus, it'll get some extra cash from people who don't pay attention to their subscriptions. Cause corporate gonna corporate.

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u/NotAnotherAmerican May 17 '24

Oh here comes Gamepass Ultimate Series X Version 2 Extreme Halo 360 Edition

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u/Domz98 May 17 '24

Has Microsoft said anything about older COD games? I know it's been talked about from time to time, but I wasn't sure if they said anything about it.

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u/Junior-Minute7599 May 17 '24

They could call it Xbox CoDpiece

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u/Ok_Goose_5924 May 17 '24

Call of Duty pass

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u/gainsbyatheism May 17 '24

Activision's Xbox

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u/Fardn_n_shiddn May 17 '24

The pricing increase on this higher tier can’t be more than like $3-4/month, otherwise you’re better off just buying CoD outright

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u/Movellon May 17 '24

Yeah, I’m out.

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u/Low_Discipline_4031 May 17 '24

Makes sense when you think about it, I bet a lot of people would buy game pass and view it as free COD rather than paying $20/month to play call of duty over years instead of a one time purchase of $70

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u/DouglasWFail May 17 '24

I’ll gladly pay less to not play CoD.

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u/Blufuze May 17 '24

If they are going to fuck with game pass and try to squeeze more money out of gamers, could they at least make it usable for the entire family? I’m sick of my game pass subscription only working with two of the three Xbox consoles in our house.

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u/GrumpygamerSF May 18 '24

I heard it's claimed that Xbox will be giving every player 1 million dollars.

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u/Rainwalker28 May 18 '24

Rip gamepass. Abk killed xbox. Seriously though, I have yet to see anything good at all come out of the deal. D4 was added but that means nothing for me. I pre ordered ultimate and have played the crap out of it lol. I got excited hearing blizzard working on a new ip. Then not long after the news, it was canned. I usually try to stay positive but this is going to be pretty bad if they add a tier above ultimate that is 5-10 more monthly & all day 1s(not just first party) get shoved into it. If xbox is already disappointed in current sub numbers, they are in for a very rough ride if this happens going forward.

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u/Pep77 May 18 '24

"Game Pass HA HA YOU IDIOTS THOUGHT COD WAS GONNA BE INCLUDED WITH ULTIMATE" would be an honest name

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u/AcanthocephalaIll222 May 18 '24

I’m done with game pass “great value” no way, almost $20 a month for what games? We got halo in 2021 ($70) and starfield in 2023 ($70), plaworlds ($30) was awesome too but all those games amount to $170 total and I would have owned them. That’s less than a year of game pass. What else has been a decent big game title? We get the old assassin’s creed games that are already dirt cheap on sale. We get all these older titles that are not expensive to just buy.

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u/Reflexes-of-a-Tree May 18 '24

They could deposit $15 into my account every month and I’d still never play CoD

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u/CrotasScrota84 May 18 '24

Ads are coming guaranteed. Phil Spencer has ruined gaming

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u/DuckPimp69 May 18 '24

Mo money!

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u/DarkShadowEmi May 18 '24

I just hope they add a tier instead of increasing prices, I don't give 2 shits about CoD , I play mostly RPGs & indies and some EA games (Star Wars mostly).

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u/rebornsgundam00 May 18 '24

Damn bro can game companies get ……… nah ill shut my mouth😂

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u/Viggy2k May 18 '24

If gamepass is raised because more content gets added, the it defeats the purpose of gamepass being the "best deal in gaming".

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u/SendMe143 May 18 '24

I’m at my limit of what I’ll pay now. I have 2 kids that have ultimate also. I’ve gone back to PC mostly with Steam Deck. My son has switched to PC. My daughter mainly only plays Minecraft, but tries out a lot of games on game pass.

I can’t see keeping 3 subscriptions if they raise it. They definitely need to add a family subscription option.

We let psn lapse and don’t miss it. With the new Steam family sharing - it makes it hard to stick with consoles.

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u/3kpk3 May 18 '24

Expected and makes sense!

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u/Caranthi May 18 '24

World of Warcraft says Hi!

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u/Arrasor May 17 '24

If COD is the sole reason then make a new tier that is ultimate+COD and add whatever extra $$$ amount monthly on for the people who want COD and leave the rest alone. I'm already questioning whether I should renew ultimate next year at the current rate, and sure as heck won't renew if I have to pay extra solely for a franchise I don't play.

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u/HGLatinBoy May 17 '24

I’m surprised they haven’t just dropped day 1  releases at lower tiers and just keep it to ultimate.

Having every game day 1 for free is a lot of money left on the table and I’m sure people would be fine with paying less for something less than ultimate but includes some games that have been out for a few months

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u/RustySnoBall May 17 '24

Here we were thinking Sony and PlayStation was the real threat. Now we have Microsoft fucking us over. Turns out the greatest villain was within

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u/Spartan3_LucyB091 May 17 '24 edited May 17 '24

It’s going to be as shitty and greedy as the PS+ tier system.

The purchase of ABK is the downfall of Xbox.

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u/Ok_Goose_5924 May 17 '24

Remember that scene from south park with Indiana Jones? That's what Xbox is doing to us fans right now.

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u/cardonator Craig May 17 '24

These "articles" feel so lazy. Of course this could happen, so posting a rumor about it means nothing. They may also not change anything.

I'd like to see them add some of the subscriptions to a Game Pass Ultimate Plus level or something. Like give me GPU and WOW for a bundled price.

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u/Illustrious-Chip1640 May 17 '24

Subscription services have killed every art medium at this point

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u/StormSwitch Founder May 17 '24

It's claimed! (Rumor)

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u/wmwadeii May 17 '24

Why do we believe articles whose sources are guys on Twitter who are not associated with MSFT? They are just trying to get views on their sites and by hoping other sites quote them or are aggregated into major news outlets. And if people are taking their word because they were right on the past, as the saying goes, "Even a broken clock is right twice a day."