r/XboxSeriesX • u/F0REM4N • Nov 16 '23

Digital Foundry Thinks 60FPS Starfield Is Now 'More Viable' On Xbox Series X News

https://www.purexbox.com/news/2023/11/digital-foundry-thinks-60fps-starfield-is-now-more-viable-on-xbox-series-x
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u/CRIP4LIFE Nov 16 '23

50fps doesnt go into 120hz evenly tho, so without vrr this would be very bad.

40fps goes into 120hz 3x perfectly. so no jidder or pacing or tearing issues.

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u/MistandYork Nov 16 '23 edited Nov 16 '23

The thing with 50fps is, 99.99% of TVs have way more refresh ranges than consoles ever use. Instead they divide 60/2 to get 30fps, when TVs can do native 30Hz.

Just to give you an example, my TV have 24,25,30,50,60,100 and 120Hz modes. If the consoles would use the whole range, we could easily see 30fps games without bad frame pacing, or 50fps both natively and 100Hz divided in half.

Sadly, consoles are strictly locked to 60 or 120Hz for some reason.

EDIT: Don't listen to me, it seems US TVs still don't support 50 or 25Hz

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u/CRIP4LIFE Nov 16 '23

25, 50, 100hz TVs arent native in america. they're native in europe. i know your tv outputs these resolutions (mine does too), but that's the exception, not the norm, by far.

xbox allows for 50hz tvs. it's not that the consoles are locked. it's more, the devs design for what most of their users can use. you dont see 25/50/100hz coded games, because to most ppl globally, those refresh rates would be awful on their tvs.

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u/roywarner Nov 16 '23

I know -- that's why I said I can see it going either way. 50fps on 60hz is rough -- not sure if putting it at 120 really helps all that much. It could, potentially, but I've never seen it so I don't know.

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u/CRIP4LIFE Nov 16 '23

40fps on a 120hz tv is very smooth.

40fps on a 60hz tv is god awful.

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u/cutememe Nov 16 '23

I think 40 FPS looks great. It's way better than 30 IMO.

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u/droans Founder Nov 16 '23

Not at 60hz.

40fps will cause every other frame to be repeated which causes noticeable jitter.

30fps will cause every frame to be repeated. That would actually remove jitter because each frame is getting the same amount of time on screen.

Course it's different if you have a VRR display.

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u/cutememe Nov 16 '23

That's a fair point actually. I use it on my Steam Deck frequently but the screen itself runs at 40 hz in that mode so there's no judder. You're probably right about that.