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u/awaketochaos 2d ago
Biden is the old guy at the company that is kind of slow and awkward but has been there for years, shows up, does his work, tries to be helpful, and maybe cracks a funny joke now and then. Is he as productive or innovate as the new young folk coming in? Probably not but you know he’s gonna be there, doing the work. And he already knows everyone in the company.
Trump is the old guy that spends all of his time making sexist and racist jokes at the water cooler and turns in subpar work and HR is just waiting for the inevitable sexual harassment lawsuit from one the new interns so they can finally fire him right before retirement.
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u/iforgotwhat8wasfor 2d ago
except that he is as productive as the younger staff.
he passed more progressive legislation in 3 years than obama did in 8.
& that’s what is so frustrating for many of us. there is no acknowledgement… remember the collective freak-out over net neutrality a few years back? biden fixed that! …crickets…
remember the post office fiasco? we were running out to buy stamps to save it. biden fixed that.
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u/awaketochaos 2d ago
He’s done a good job of putting competent people on his team so that he can get those things done. Unlike the other one that only surrounds himself with absolute garbage or attacks the ones that aren’t.
It is pretty weird that there is so much silence around Biden and what he has done vs. how much noise there was around Obama trying to do anything but we all know why that is.
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u/FASTAMPERSANDFURY1 2d ago
It ain't that Felon Trump hired the worst, but that those of his left-overs from the first term that he has now are more vicious and evil than he could be. And, they will make sure once having wielded power, they will screw the USA into oblivion and run all institutions into the ground.
With the repeal of the Chevron rule, SCOTUS went off on its own tyranny. For July 4, they will give us an immune Felon Trump. If old Joe Biden is all we can have there is nothing we can do is vote for Democrats up and down the ballot.
The conservative dogs who caught the car know how to chew the occupants' heads off.
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u/awaketochaos 2d ago
Very true. It’s not actually about Trump. Trump is just a figurehead. Useful idiot. The people behind it have been at it for decades. They are playing the long game. Project 2025 was long rumored to be a conspiracy theory and now they have announced that it is indeed their plan.
This is going to be a lifelong battle. It’s going to span several generations. It already has.
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u/Funny_Alternative_55 1d ago
He’s like a 99 4Runner with 500k on it, not as smooth, fast, or in as good a shape as he once was, and missing the bells and whistles of the newer ones, but still doing an okay job.
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u/CadenVanV 2d ago
Plus he only has slow moments. Look at the speech he gave today, it was peak Biden form. Last night was shit, but it doesn’t define his performance overall
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u/awaketochaos 2d ago
I’ll take occasionally senile over constant raging racist lunatic that jerks off dictators any day.
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u/CadenVanV 2d ago
Exactly. Occasionally senile old man vs always senile old man + all the other shit. Even if Trump wasn’t a raving lunatic, bigot, and felon he’d still be the worse choice. Especially after the snake, shark, battery rant
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u/JaxJags904 1d ago
If Trump “wasnt a raving lunatic, bigot and felon” you wouldn’t at all recognize him as Trump.
It’s like me saying “If I was a star quarterback I’d be playing in the NFL.” Well….sure I guess. But I’m clearly not that thing.
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u/awaketochaos 2d ago
I will never recover the lost brain cells that the snake, shark, battery subject destroyed. What in the actual fuck and why in the actual fuck are we not putting a stop to this? Even if Trump was a kinder more progressive candidate that aligned with my views and he said something like that, I’d be like yeah no he’s cooked.
The fact that we have to choose between two old senile white men that can barely hold it together is insane. At this point I’m just like why don’t we do a Mortal Kombat tournament and get it over with?
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u/CadenVanV 2d ago
To be fair, you vote more for the administration, not the man these days. Biden himself is important, but the 40 something cabinet members and all the political officers he appoints are so much more important than him alone.
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u/numbskullerykiller 2d ago
It's not so much the "energy" it's the fact that he got up and faced the blowback. He took the heat. He kept going. He stayed the course. So what if he needs to get to bed early, Hell I need to get to bed early. I'll take sleepy grandpa who believes in this country 8 days a week over felon, sexual assaulter, braggart with pancake makeup who lies about jesus. Trump is like a state college frat guy dressed up like Tammy Faye Baker
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u/xDaysix 10h ago
And what happens on the times when he's not allowed to get any rest, which is a many times a week occurrence?
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u/numbskullerykiller 9h ago
He's the president, he delegates. He's already been there for 3 years with accusatory maga hyenas combing DC for any hint that he is not doing the job. If there was a hint of a problem they would have known about it and exploited it by now.
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u/xDaysix 7h ago
That's an ignorant attempt to make an excuse while not understanding that there are many decisions that ONLY the president CAN make. They DO/DID know there was a problem. They (his staff) even admitted that he's not fit enough mentally to stand trial for anything he's accused of.
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u/numbskullerykiller 7h ago
Huh, I did not see anywhere that his "staff" said he was not mentally fit to stand trial. If you're referring to the special counsel's statement that a jury would likely not convict him because they will think he's a nice old man with a faulty memory then you're way off base. That is not a statement that he is not fit to stand trial. It's a statement that in the face of the basic criminal standard of proof: guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, is high enough that a jury will think he just forgot rather than finding "intent." Completely different things. He said he can't convict with this evidence. So, no you're interpretation is totally inaccurate. As for the decisions only a president can make, that might be true, but of course as you know, the aids draft everything, present it, then the president decides. Again, none of the freak Maga's have any evidence that some decision failed because the President was not "able" to make a decision.
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u/xDaysix 6h ago
This is funny, because that's not the actual incident that I spoke of, but you found another incident and interpreted it instead of taking it at face value.
The couple of incidents that I mentioned were on CNBC and CNN, white house staffers as guests. They said the words as I stated. The words as they stated cannot honestly be interpreted, in any way, as you stated.
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u/numbskullerykiller 6h ago
You have that reversed. Face value: jury will not find intent. The staffers? I cannot verify your claim, but certainly Greene and her crew would have made more hay out of that, so it's doubtful.
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u/Aggressive_Sand_3951 1d ago edited 1d ago
Don’t forget the other guy was already fired from the job for shitty performance (and hid things from his past to get the job), threw a hissy fit when notified, had his friends come by and tear up the office and menace the other workers, and is now a convicted felon.
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u/Giggle_kitty 2d ago
Trump literally said he’d rather be anywhere else right now, he doesn’t want the job.
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u/Looieanthony 1d ago
And if number two had thirty lies on his application and tried to blow up the bldg.I would have security kick his ass out the door.
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u/LandofForeverSunset 1d ago
Adding to this analogy, he stole company secrets, and regularly colludes with rival corporations.
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u/Sensitive-Painting30 2d ago
Americans that follow Trump are broken…and of the same ilk as Trump. I would rather vote for a kind man with empathy than a fascist lying felon rapist that wants to fuck his daughter.
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u/bisforbenis 1d ago
This is the thing that drives me wild. We don’t have to speculate on how Biden might perform as president. No I wouldn’t bet on either of them in a triathlon but we’re seeing him currently doing great as a president despite unprecedented opposition from congress openly trying to sabotage his presidency
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u/Newwavecybertiger 2d ago
I love how the whole country is emotionally processing this at the same time.
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u/DonJuniorsEmails 1d ago
Eh, I don't think anyone is undecided. It's a nice headline for clicks, to make people think there's a race.
We had 4 years of Diaper Don. We've had almost 4 years of Biden.
Anyone who still can't choose, they weren't ever paying attention and they certainly didn't watch the debate.
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u/Clickar 2d ago
This back and forth from both sides is so stupid.
Yes, I agree Biden is better than Trump. Yes, I will vote for Biden because Trump is that dangerous. That doesn't fucking mean I have to think Biden crushed it or that it was a real great decision for him to run again considering his age. I just want something better than the guy who could possibly lose to the loser in last place on people who should ever be president. He is a children's movie level villian and laughing his way through this.
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u/FASTAMPERSANDFURY1 2d ago
Ain't nothing to like here except knowing Felon Trump will expire sometime. The problem with that silver lining is that if he gets in, we all are going to our demises before he does.
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u/captainloudz 1d ago
Never been a Biden fan. But he’s done a hell of a lot of good within his term. Granted a lot of that was cleaning Trump’s mess. And he’s done it with grace. Sure I think he’s too old, but so is the other guy. Sure I wish he handled Israel way differently. Maybe if he stopped giving them aid it would have been different. Maybe the U.S. would have lost their only solid ally in the Middle East. Who knows. What I do know at least is he’s gonna do the job and he’ll do it well. I also know he’s not a treasonous pig.
So I’m gonna vote for Democracy and not for treasonous pig.
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u/Deneweth 2d ago
If the job is mostly based on experience and wisdom and is just delegating and appointing other people to actually do most of the work then yeah I would consider that candidate.
Since his age and thus health is concerned I would create some sort of contingency plan for someone to be a "heartbeat" away from taking over this important job.
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u/KenCosgrove_Accounts 2d ago
Bidens people did him a disservice I believe by overloading him with facts to try and recite. Everything was a percentage or some figure of hundreds of thousands or millions of people. I can’t imagine people care about that. He’s a seasoned statesman with his own kind of charisma and would have definitely done better just speaking broadly on the topics and maybe rebut more. Just say “if elected I’m guarantee I’ll codify roe.” Or as a voter are you swayed by anecdotes of rape and incest?
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u/Phallic-Monolith 1d ago
I don’t think this question is necessarily a bad one but I don’t know why it’s phrased like Trump would be worth hiring based on the shit he said either, fucker going to be running around the workplace calling coworkers Palestinians and he can do anything but answer a direct question.
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u/Future-Operation-869 9h ago
It's weird how no one remembers what a shit show 2017 to 2020 was with that orange turd. I even forget things because it was another horrible thing every other day.
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u/FASTAMPERSANDFURY1 2d ago
Yep, but if you want to survive you have to get over it and vote for Biden.
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u/Sure_Ad5479 2d ago
Biden only run cause trump run, if the biden can beat him once he can do it again this time no more malaky, take you fking pill(drug) joe and win this already. Jon steward approve this message👍💙💙💙
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u/Murky_Excitement_816 1d ago
I would never say Biden is "crushing it"... he's just doing a hell of a lot better than the last guy by steering back to a better path which isn't saying much bc trump's bar is really fucking low.
Hell I could give the job to the corpse of jfk and it would still surpass trump because not only is trump incompetent, his cabinet and people he surrounds himself with make the country worse off
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u/Quirky-Ring-9279 1d ago
There is literally no way I would hire either of them. I’d probably keep looking for candidates. It’s like going on two Tinder dates and picking the guy that is at least “nice”
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u/Kindly-Ad-5071 1d ago
That's an outright lie, there's 78 year olds just scooping up jobs meant for teens left right and center!
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u/Routine-Entrance-430 1d ago
surely youd let the position sit empty a bit to see if theres someone better
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u/Dhenn004 1d ago
why are we acting like they are the only people who applied to this 'hypothetical job'. This is what's frustrating.
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u/EthanDMatthews 2d ago edited 2d ago
This isn't accurate.
First, Biden's team -- the administration -- is doing well. Biden is mainly just a figurehead at this point.
Second, it's not like Trump just appeared without warning to try and take Biden's job. Everyone knew Trump would run again. And everyone expected Biden to retire. Biden explicitly campaigned on only running for 1 term!
Biden and the Democrats had 4 years to find and talk up a replacement. Four years.
Also, Biden's mental decline was evident even in 2020. Voters let him slide because it was a choice between Biden or Trump, and they just needed to stop Trump once (and they *barely* managed it).
That was the plan.
And they didn't uphold their side of the bargain.
Democrats love to accuse Trump supporters of being in a cult. But they've been denying the clear reality of Biden's mental and physical decline.
All that's changed is that they've been faced with the horrifying consequences of their blind partisan loyalty because debates don't occur exclusively within the safety of one party's echo chamber.
Blind partisanship, on both sides, has brought us to this lowest of low points. But give the Democrats a week, and they'll be back to pretending that Biden is fine. Trump will win, and they'll pretend like it's a surprise.
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u/FASTAMPERSANDFURY1 2d ago
Nope. There is no pretending unless it is that 1984 is not coming with Felon Trump. No Democrat loved the Biden performance at the debate. But Biden moved up one point in a registered voters poll today.
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u/fbi-surveillance-bot 1d ago
Crushing it?
Record credit card debt. Record number of people taking funds early from their retirement accounts due to hardship. Record increase of funds distribution out retirement accounts for retirees (avg. 2% of total increase yearly). If that is crushing it...
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u/youdoitimbusy 1d ago
Look, we can all agree Trump is a twat. It's not debatable. But pretending like Biden is crushing it is an outright lie on all accounts. He wasn't handed some terrible economy like he claimed in the debate. He was handed a healthy economy. One that he subsequently ruined with the covid lock downs and accompanied bailout, that has been the direct cause of inflation today. Likewise, his immigration policy is killing the budget of every major city at minimum. While flooding the job market with cheap labor and suppressing wages.
Record credit card debt. Record homelessness. Record inflation. Record immigration. Record amount of Americans working 2 jobs to survive.
I'm so sick of this, my party causes no harm bullshit from both sides. If this is truly the best we have to offer our country for leadership, we deserve to go the way of the Romans.
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u/Snoo_88763 2d ago
This is dumb... companies love to have people re-apply for their jobs to get employees like Biden out. T
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u/Sure_Ad5479 2d ago
Companies like that doest care about age, i mean they have started hire children already. Children!!!
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u/ignorememe 2d ago
Declining to hire something on the basis of age alone is going to be hard to defend in court. But not hiring the rapist convicted felon who already tried to have your employees killed is a pretty easy argument to make.
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u/this_name_not_that 2d ago
If a 78-year-old convicted felon and adjudicated rapist applied for a job at your company like Trump is, would they even be granted an interview?