r/WetlanderHumor • u/Sherris010 Prince (but not a bloodly lord) of the ravens • Dec 31 '21
The Dragons Peace (New Rule)
So it seems like things have gotten a little tense lately...
This is a sub for people to laugh and show their love of all things WoT through the lowest quality shitposting 'silly memes'. Posts attacking others, even 'in jest' only serve to divide the community, and foster negative feelings.
u/Key_Ad_1683's "Shitposting about the books until WH gets its vibe back" series is a great idea, and a good example of what the sub should be about. I've see others post about how they are going to follow Keys example, that is fantastic!
We have a new rule: from now on, no memes about things that aren't actually WoT. No meta posts about other subs, or about people who work on the show ect. These types of posts almost always devolve into a ton of personal attacks, slurs and threats. This sub was created so we could laugh together and poke some fun at the books which contain one of, in my opinion, the best stories ever told. Lets just do that and make the world a very slightly better place, instead of hating on each other, and making it worse.
You're still welcome to make memes about the show, negative or positive, we're talking about memes about the people who work on the show, or other subreddits.
Thanks for all the laughs everyone
-Sherris010
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u/sugarmetimbers Dec 31 '21
Naming this The Dragon’s Peace got a chuckle out of me. Good rule, I like it.
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u/LewsTherinTelamonBot This is a (sentient) bot Dec 31 '21
Madness waits for some. It creeps up on others.
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u/sugarmetimbers Dec 31 '21
Kiss me Lews.
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u/LewsTherinTelamonBot This is a (sentient) bot Dec 31 '21
Humming
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u/sugarmetimbers Dec 31 '21
That’s my boy
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Dec 31 '21
Get a room you two. Or maybe a box.
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u/LewsTherinTelamonBot This is a (sentient) bot Dec 31 '21
Death rides on my shoulder, death walks in my footsteps; I am death…
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u/chiriklo Jan 01 '22
So, are the Aiel exempt from this dragon's peace or not? Because we're going to kick some ass if we get excluded.
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u/Crepe_Cod Jan 01 '22
The Aiel are the Mods of the Dragon's Peace
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u/LewsTherinTelamonBot This is a (sentient) bot Jan 01 '22
A man who trusts everyone is a fool, and a man who trusts no one is a fool. We are all fools if we live long enough.
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u/Crepe_Cod Jan 01 '22
Forgive me if I don't take life advice from a Kinslayer you fucking Looney Toon.
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u/Gilthu Jan 01 '22
Gingers RISE UP!!! Only thing scarier than an Irishman wearing a veil and spear is an Irishwoman wearing a veil and spear!
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u/chiriklo Jan 01 '22 edited Jan 01 '22
how many people wanna kick some ass
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I'M REALLY JUST A SENSITIVE ARTIST
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u/langlo94 Jan 01 '22
On a day of fire and blood, a tattered post waved above /r/WetlanderHumor, bearing the ancient symbol of Aes Sedai. On a day of fire and blood and the one power, as prophecy had suggested, the unstained subreddit, broken, bent knee to the forgotten meme. The first nine mods swore fealty to the Dragon Reborn, and the subreddit was changed forever.
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u/LewsTherinTelamonBot This is a (sentient) bot Jan 01 '22
The dead watch. The dead never close their eyes.
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u/ScerwTypos The Wee Wees... Jan 01 '22
There are neither beginnings nor endings to the Wheel of Time. But it was a beginning.
Also, the wee wees as the woo woos (mods - can I please please get this as a user flair?)
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Jan 02 '22
You get half of it
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u/ScerwTypos The Wee Wees... Jan 02 '22
Hahah.. as a wise person once said, the wee wees as the woo woos
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u/riddlesinthedark117 Feb 28 '22
It’s probably a good idea to ban posts about the show since that’s just Rafe bad fanfic
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u/Gilead56 Sep 07 '23
So uh, what’s the status on this?
It’s startin’ to get kinda weird around here.
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u/xD_LUL Dec 31 '21
Thank you mods for keeping this sub clean, really doing great job and I fully aprove this (name and all). Happy new year to you and to everyone on this sub!
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u/Zventibold Dec 31 '21
Thanks mods! Too much posts ending being only showrunners attack. We are here for laughs, not debate.
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u/Sherris010 Prince (but not a bloodly lord) of the ravens Dec 31 '21
This sums it up well! Let's make laughs not debates.
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u/monkeyman512 Mistress of Novices Dec 31 '21
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u/jonpaladin Jan 01 '22
this is allegedly robert redford and whenver i think about that my brain melts a little
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u/TheNerdChaplain Jan 01 '22
It is, it's from Jeremiah Johnson.
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u/Nonner_Party Jan 01 '22
Wait, what?
I always thought it was Zach Galifianakis in some movie I hadn't seen yet.
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u/Dejugga Jan 01 '22
So glad to see it. Both WH and WoT have gone from being my two most favorite subs of all-time to making me consistently regret opening them due to all the negativity.
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Jan 01 '22
Bloody ashes I wish I had enough cash to throw $120 awards around... Mat must be around
Glory to the mods and Tai'Shar to u/Key_Ad_1683!
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u/kermfanman Dec 31 '21
Thanks mods. Joining this sub after finishing the series has been an absolute delight. Keep it up.
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u/TheMadWoodcutter Jan 01 '22
The best subs I’ve seen on Reddit are also some of the most heavily moderated to keep content on topic, and to remove shit disturbers. Inb4 people start calling the mods nazis for having any standards at all.
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u/aaronrizz Jan 01 '22
One of the reasons I like ASX_Bets is people get banned for things that become a reoccurring joke and while the mods do a lot of work the community itself also keeps people in check.
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u/zonine Wise One Sep 07 '23
Not a mod, but if you're here to bitch about your posts being locked this week, let me just say your memes aren't even fucking memes.
Bitching is not a meme. Complaining is not a meme. Make something fucking funny.
Stupid Wetlanders.
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u/LightRhino Jan 01 '22
I have no objections, just a point of clarification: Can we make fun of the writing of the show? Or is that considered personal attack?
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u/Iades_Sedai Jan 02 '22
All praise the dragon's peace!
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u/LewsTherinTelamonBot This is a (sentient) bot Jan 02 '22
I would not mind you in my head, if you were not so clearly mad.
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u/herscher12 Sep 09 '23
from now on, no memes about things that aren't actually WoT
So no more memes about the show?
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u/mpmaley Jan 01 '22
Just want to say thanks mods. I had heard about this place while reading but was so afraid to come as to not get spoiled. I was so happy to finally join. I’m not witty enough to produce but I love seeing what people come up with. <3
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u/WeePedrovski Jan 01 '22
Thank you for this, I have my complaints about the show but the circlejerk of complaining about it is a very bad vibe and WH is a great little slice of comfort that shouldn't devolve into complaining about something we can just pretend doesn't exist.
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u/2_4_16_256 Jan 01 '22
The important question is if /r/aielhumor is going to enforce the dragons peace out wage war against the seanchan until they become uncivilized beasts?
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u/phoenix235831 Jan 03 '22
Should we?
- r/AielHumor Mod
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u/Braid_tugger-bot Jan 03 '22
No need for her to know we can't handle our affairs any better than that.
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Jan 01 '22
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u/Gilead56 Jan 01 '22
Well that’s not entirely fair… we used to get “Egwayne is the worst” memes every now and then too.
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u/d_faktor Dec 31 '21
Thank you! Will be really cool to see funny and cozy WH again! Miss it in this toxic days.
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u/InuGhost Jan 01 '22
So does that include the one doing the "Posting memes till WOT is canceled" that I saw earlier today?
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Jan 02 '22
Imo if it's about the book or the show, and is a meme or a joke, it's fine. Only posts talking about Rafe, the actor's, or other subs are affected by this.
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u/thedrunkentendy Dec 31 '21
Yep. Completely agree. It was like how bad the other subs got with people criticizing the people criticizing the show and then a viscious circle of posts in response. No ones pride should be so attached to hating or loving the show that they feel the need to make passive, but not really passive, aggressive posts and memes about unamed people.
Get back to roasting and meme.
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u/JeffSheldrake You are here exactly enough, Young Bull Aug 04 '22
I get what the title of this post is a reference to, finally!
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u/Sherris010 Prince (but not a bloodly lord) of the ravens Aug 06 '22
this is such a slowpoke meme :D good for you young bull.
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u/JeffSheldrake You are here exactly enough, Young Bull Aug 06 '22
Hurrah!
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u/Hufdud Another Age Another young Bull Sep 14 '23
Wait, when did your young bull flair get updated?
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u/JeffSheldrake You are here exactly enough, Young Bull Sep 15 '23
A year ago or so, once I finished reading the books.
What about you, what's with your flair?
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u/Hufdud Another Age Another young Bull Sep 15 '23
I got it when i was the new young bull memeing my way haphazardly through the series last winter
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u/JeffSheldrake You are here exactly enough, Young Bull Sep 16 '23
Oh really! I wish to know more of your arc now.
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u/tinntinn39 Jan 02 '23
Have just found this sub! I’m a huge wot fan since the 90’s and can’t believe I never knew about this sub.
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u/Sherris010 Prince (but not a bloodly lord) of the ravens Jan 02 '23
Welcome friend! Tai'shar WoT
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u/HarambeIsJustAnApe Jan 01 '22
I dont get it. When the show first came out this sub praised it and memed the hell out of it, but now that the season ended(this poorly) suddebly it is not okay to post memes that delivers a bad critique on the show? (Sorry for my horrible grammar and phrasing)
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u/Key_Ad_1683 Jan 01 '22
You can critique the show, it’s encouraged as long as it’s funny and makes a valid point. A lot of people think just because I haven’t memed the show means I’m defending it. I’m not. I have just as many complaints (if not more) than anyone, it just seemed like the wrong time to post any here because I didn’t want to help this place to devolve into a bitch-fest that just amplified all of the negativity from how disappointed people were by the first season.
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u/HarambeIsJustAnApe Jan 01 '22
I get your point and i 100% agree with you. I dont think that this sub should become the bitch-fest you mentionen and should remain the funny sub it was. I just think that its a bit odd that no one had a problem with posts that praised the show and cast in this sub before the negatibe critique that came out when the latest episode released (although there were far less posts like those than in WoT or other wheel of time subs that are less humor themed).
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u/Key_Ad_1683 Jan 01 '22
I think it built up to a critical mass once all of the backlash from E8 came out and the mods decided to ban it all because any critique/praise of anyone turned into people hunkering down on one side or the other and arguing
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u/Key_Ad_1683 Jan 01 '22
For 99% of this subs life there wasn’t anything mean being said and no one is banning critiques of the show, it’s a false comparison to equivocate WetlanderHumor with another sub, completely different functions and uses
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u/Key_Ad_1683 Jan 01 '22
I’m all for the mods doing what they need to to keep this sub a fun place to goof around at, which they’ve been doing a great job at in my estimation. They’re doing what they see as fit and I support them in it. Just the fact that you’re arguing this this intensely is proving the point that in order to keep things upbeat there’s some topics that just aren’t going to be discussed here because of how personal it is to people.
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u/Key_Ad_1683 Jan 01 '22
Wasn’t assuming any of your intentions, I was just saying some things get argued about so intensely that it’s better to leave that to other subs so this place can retain what has made it fun and a place to relax. Now back to my regular scheduled shitposting…
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u/Hufdud Another Age Another young Bull Sep 14 '23
Yeah, i started out the season making some memes mildly critical of some things in the show (ie bayle domon not talking about his aged grandmother) but everything devolved so quickly ive felt forced to only post positive things about the show to balance it out
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u/YeahThisIsMyNewAcct Jan 01 '22
Exactly, this is the entire problem. Everyone was fine with jerking off Rafe and anyone involved in the show back when they were excited about it, but now that it turned out to suck, they want to hold back criticism. Rafe deserves to be criticized and memed. This is a bad decision.
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u/Key_Ad_1683 Jan 01 '22
I definitely agree that Rafe deserves criticism but every single WoT forum doesn’t need to encompass every area of WoT. This is a sub for humor and sharing a passion for WoT. The praise/criticism of people who are in/running the show is way too polarizing for this sub and tends to just devolve into shit flinging from either side.
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u/YeahThisIsMyNewAcct Jan 01 '22
Except there was just as much if not more shit flinging back when the critics were in the minority, yet there were no efforts to protect them at the time. Once the pendulum swung, now people act like the sky is falling and we need to curb the criticism lest the spirit of the sub be lost.
It’s hypocrisy plain and simple. Criticism of Rafe is a problem, but praise of him was fine. Criticism of the main subs is a problem, but criticism of the whitecloaks sub was fine.
Humorous criticism of showrunners absolutely belongs on this sub, just like humorous praise for them belonged here 3 months ago. It’s completely wrong for the mods to block that.
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u/RocketMan495 Jan 02 '22
Imo a large part of the problem is (as the mods are saying) is "hate directed at a real (not anonymous) person". In a normal Reddit discussion, people will have different opinions, get into fights, and even start with personal attacks. But at the end of the day, either one of us can close our computer and have little effect on the real world.
For the showrunners, it's different because this is their lives. Anytime you get an online group creating a hate-filled echo chamber, you'll have a (very small) minority of individuals who take it too far into the real world. I have little doubt that the showrunners have received hate mail, and perhaps even death threats, from people in our community. That is the reason (again imo) that the mods have to come down hard on this, more so than criticism of the whitecloaks.
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u/YeahThisIsMyNewAcct Jan 02 '22
Yeah that’s fair. I guess personally I don’t see it that different when someone tells me I’m a Nazi white supremacist for disliking the changes to how regional diversity was handled in the show vs some whitecloak douchebag telling Rafe to kill himself, but it’s fair there is a difference between anonymous shit slinging towards anonymous people online vs anonymous shit slinging towards a real person.
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u/Key_Ad_1683 Jan 01 '22
There were definitely some mean spirited posts that didn’t fit into the sub about people who would criticize, I totally agree with you. That was the ember that lit the fuse. People dogpiled in on both sides and chaos ensued, shifting the focus from what WetlanderHumor is about.
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u/Sherris010 Prince (but not a bloodly lord) of the ravens Jan 01 '22
When people were thinking generally positive towards the show you didn't tend to see every post about rafe (or others who worked on the show) turn into huge arguments that would devolve into slurs and hate speech. Now we have people firmly entrenched on both sides so those posts inevitably devolve into a huge fight and often result in commenters violating Reddits site-wide rules. We can't have that here and continue to operate nor would I want to as my goal in wetlanderhumor is to bring people laughs not to rage at each other.
Also as I said in the OP you're still welcome to criticize the show (so long as it's in the form of a funny meme) just don't create a post specifically targeted towards any one person or another subreddit.
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u/YeahThisIsMyNewAcct Jan 01 '22
There were like 3 days of widespread Rafeposting on the sub. I don’t even think those posts are any good, I downvoted most of them because they were unfunny (even if I agree with the sentiment), but you’re acting like it’s a plague that’s been hovering around for months. Gotta make room for more unique “Gawyn bad” content I suppose.
When people were thinking generally positive towards the show you didn't tend to see every post about rafe (or others who worked on the show) turn into huge arguments that would devolve into slurs and hate speech
You really did, only it was targeted towards the people being critical of the show so it was fine. I had to unsub when episodes 1-3 were out because every user who dared criticize the changes would get ganged up on and accused of being a whitecloak bigot.
You’re throwing the baby out with the bathwater. I get that outright banning contentious topics makes things easier to moderate, but it will make the sub worse. There was already the rule in place curbing excessive hate towards Rafe. This is unnecessary and harmful.
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u/Sherris010 Prince (but not a bloodly lord) of the ravens Jan 01 '22
You're welcome to your opinion but I respectfully disagree. If this rule turns out to be a problem we can reverse course but the reaction had been generally favorable so I don't forsee that happening.
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u/YeahThisIsMyNewAcct Jan 01 '22
The reaction from people who comment on a mod post has been favorable. The reaction from people using the sub is that Rafeposts had been getting upvoted.
I believe you’re being well intentioned, but this just leads the sub towards being an echochamber like all the other WoT subs.
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u/Sherris010 Prince (but not a bloodly lord) of the ravens Jan 01 '22
This post has been upvoted also. We're also not saying anything about criticizing the show. People are still welcome to do that. Let's just not hate on specific real world people. There is no need for that and it leads to nothing good.
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u/YeahThisIsMyNewAcct Jan 01 '22
Will you extend that to people on the opposite side of the issue as well? For example, insults aimed at critics of the show like Shadiversity or criticism of the whitecloaks sub. Will those things also be disallowed and those who do it banned, or will this only apply to Rafe/supporters of the show and the main subs?
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u/Sherris010 Prince (but not a bloodly lord) of the ravens Jan 02 '22
Yeah as I stated in the OP. No posts about other subreddits or specific people. Wetlanderhumor is for WoT memes. We're here to laugh about WoT not argue.
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u/YeahThisIsMyNewAcct Jan 02 '22
I appreciate you being responsive. It’s the sign of a good mod and while I disagree, I do think the sub is in good hands.
However, do you not see the hypocrisy when you yourself were saying things like
We're not going to have that whitecloak shit here.
in your posts six days ago.
I’m just venting a bit now tbh but it’s just frustrating. There was constant dog piling on early critics of the show. Constant accusations that any criticism was just veiled bigotry. Constant mockery towards the only sub (which is admittedly a very shitty sub) that was willing to criticize the show. But now that the tide finally shifted, it’s become an issue that must be addressed. It’s just frustrating that it was fine to gang up on critics when they were the minority but now that they’re the majority it’s unacceptable.
I’m sure it’s because as a mod you see much more abhorrent things that the rest of us don’t see as regular users, but it’s still frustrating.
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u/Billsolson Jan 01 '22
So how much is Rafe paying you? /s
I like it, keep it fun, you don’t have to shit on someone personally.
Just poop on their creation, they’ll get it just the same.
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u/DoctorBigglesworth Dec 31 '21
So what about memes until the show gets canceled? asking for a friend.
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u/Liesmith424 Dec 31 '21
Well if the show doesn't get canceled, the we'll have countless memes, with endless options for renewal. I see this as an absolute win!
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u/Advanced-Tackle-5617 Apr 21 '24
Make another sub called aiel humor where everyone talks about stabbing each other
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Jan 01 '22
You know what? For once (one kind of circumstance) I'm fine with a compromise like this. Let's go
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u/YeahThisIsMyNewAcct Dec 31 '21
Bring on the downvotes but I really hate this. If people want to criticize the showrunners or the absurd environment on other subs, they should be allowed to. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with memeing on Rafe for making a terrible show and it’s absurd to disallow that.
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Dec 31 '21
Perhaps criticism of the show should go to the show sub? This place is for jokes.
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u/YeahThisIsMyNewAcct Dec 31 '21
So why disallow jokes about these things?
Not to mention that criticizing the show can get you banned on virtually every WoT sub unless you walk on eggshells. The only alternative is the shitty whitecloaks sub.
If people on here don’t like memes about Rafe, let them get downvoted. Otherwise, don’t police the content people want to see here.
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u/dadadidudu Jan 01 '22
depends on how you do the criticising. imo people should (re-)learn how to give more constructive feedback or how to argue constructively and not just shit on anythint that's not 100% to their liking.
also, memeing about the show, even its plot holes, is not forbidden by the new rules. and if someone really want to shit on something, well there IS a sub for that... yes it's toxic but shitting on everything without encouraging proper discussion isn't less toxic
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u/orru Jan 01 '22
If you're getting banned from everywhere, maybe reevaluate what you're posting
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u/YeahThisIsMyNewAcct Jan 01 '22
I haven’t been banned dog, but I’ve seen a ton of people get banned for completely innocuous things. Insulting Rafe has gotten people banned from the main WoT subs and that’s completely unacceptable.
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u/orru Jan 01 '22
Considering how toxic some of the fandom have been over the past 2 years, I have no issue with the mods being liberal with the ban hammer. Online places that aren't heavily moderated inevitably become horrible.
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u/monkeyman512 Mistress of Novices Jan 01 '22
Read the post. It literally explains why. I understand if you missed it, I miss stuff while reading all the time. But please read through it again.
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u/TeddysBigStick Jan 01 '22
I refuse. Down with the Dragon's Peace. Seanchan delinda est.
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u/LewsTherinTelamonBot This is a (sentient) bot Jan 01 '22
Where are all the dead? Why will they not be silent?
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Oct 06 '23
Can we petition r/AielHumor to allow show/book crossover memes with spoiler tags? That sub is /actually/ for show memes. Every time a new episode comes out we get a new wave of ragebait show bad "memes".
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u/pithy_brevity Jan 01 '22
I don’t get it, is the rule about the water?