r/Wellthatsucks 5d ago

Plumbers broke through this foundation to add pipes, compromising the structural support of the home.

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u/greenrivercrap 5d ago

Architect? Ask an engineer.

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u/jaleneropepper 5d ago

Structural engineer here, can confirm this is fucked.

My boss always said the plumber is the most dangerous guy on site because he has tools to fuck up ANYTHING.

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u/TheMathBaller 5d ago

Most single family homes are designed by architects without engineers involvement.

Source: Am structural engineer

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u/greenrivercrap 5d ago

Key word is designed, not engineered you should know this if you are a structural engineer..... architects don't engineer.

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u/Charming_Fix5627 5d ago

I get that structural engineers are the ones running the calcs to determine the dimensions and required rebar, but architects are required to have some knowledge of a building’s foundations… even if they like to make our lives hell sometimes

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u/PyroDexxRS 5d ago

The technologist in the office is doing all the heavy lifting for construction drawings most likely anyway hehe! If we can size everything with the Building Code then no Engineer required… I do like having one on the project though

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u/Charming_Fix5627 4d ago

?? I draft and design at my job. I know other firms have separate drafters and designers, but there are structural engineers who have the capacity to do both in a work day. And yeah, anyone can do any job if they learn the skills in the job description, but your average salary worker isn’t doing arch, structural, civil, and mep all at the same time

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u/NewNurse2 5d ago edited 5d ago

Uhhh that wasn't the question. So back to your original comment... does it take an engineer to know if you could sue these people, or maybe just the person that designed the home? Because you seem to have pivoted out of embarrassment when an actual engineer showed up.

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u/greenrivercrap 5d ago

Suing is a knee jerk reaction and being an architect no more qualified you than any rando to make a decision to sue.

Pivoted out of embarrassment? Only person that is embarrassed is your mom.

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u/NewNurse2 5d ago

"Suing is a knee jerk reaction"

Wow, very wise Buddhist saying. Deep.

Lol great advice from a moron that didn't just have his home chewed through by another moron.

"Only person that is embarrassed is your mom."

Very convincing that you're not embarrassed, or 14.

OP don't listen to dipshits on Reddit that both suggest an engineer, and then argue with an engineer.

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u/greenrivercrap 4d ago

Really, no shit? /s

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u/Good-Mouse1524 4d ago

Brah, I feel like you are being VERY specific with your wording. To the point of being dishonest at worst, but misleading at best.

Most single family homes are designed by architects without engineers involvement.

This is a true statement. But architects and designers still need a structural engineer's stamp to move forward with their designs. No? A typical process would be

1) Designer, sketches the house

2) Architect builds the blueprints, whatever, puts it in CAD

3) Structural engineer looks it over, and says, WTF, no, you cant do this, it's impossible. The math doesnt work out.

I live in california though, so maybe we have better/more processes/checks

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u/Sveern 4d ago

Engineer here, this is dumb. But easily and cheaply fixable. Not worth the hassle of taking anyone to court over.

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u/Flimsy-Direction3305 4d ago

I can't tell if this is satire lol.

What kind of crackhead engineering do you do?

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u/greenrivercrap 4d ago

Satire? This would be a pretty easy and straightforward fix.