r/Invincible • u/First-Concern-4600 Titan • 3d ago
Some people really think this would happen š DISCUSSION
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u/OpeningCherry5348 3d ago
Omni man would wipe the floor with homelander and be back before breakfast
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u/Ezekill136 3d ago
He'd be back before the cheese stops bubbling
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u/TheAnimalCrew 2d ago
He'd be back before the cheese was taken out of the fridge.
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u/Morgantheaccountant 2d ago
Heād be back before the cheese is purchased at a grocery store.
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u/StopCallingMeAFurry4 Comic Fan 2d ago
He'd be back before the cheese is even made
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u/aaron849 2d ago
Heād be back before the thought of making that cheese came to light
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u/Trashakame Very. 2d ago
He'd be back before the cow, where the cheese came from, was even born.
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u/JeremyR2008 Octoboss 2d ago
Hea gonna be waiting a while for that sausage egg and cheese biscuit
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u/RandoDude124 3d ago
Dude, a flick of Omni Manās thumb and index would blast HL through Park Avenue.
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u/Natural_Quote_8025 3d ago
It would shatter his rib cage from the kinetic energy alone
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u/Vhirsion 2d ago
Not even, it would pulverize him on the spot. HL is strong, Omni Man is a whole 'nother beast.
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u/yuckypants 3d ago
MK1 has both Homelander and Omni-Man, and I constatnly use Omni-Man to fuck Homelander up. And it's so fucking satisfying EVERY SINGLE TIME.
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u/SuukMeiDiek 2d ago edited 2d ago
Death Battle also has a nice video about Homie vs Omni-man
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u/JamesPlayzReviews3 2d ago
I saw it, it was so satisfying. Like finally that punk gets what's coming to him
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u/Bregneste 3d ago edited 3d ago
Pretty sure The Boys creators have said themselves that Omni-Man would easily beat Homelanderās ass.
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u/TDIfan241 3d ago
The fight wouldnāt even last a second before Homelanderās insides became his outsides.
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u/Extrimland 3d ago
Honestly if Homelander charged into Omni-Man, He would get hurt by attacking Omni-man.
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u/AnalProtector 3d ago
If Omniman were to start making coffee, then go fight hl, he would make it back and still have to wait for his coffee. (it's a keurig)
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u/Bionic_Ferir 3d ago
Omniman would literally server homelanders spine and feed him his own heart before homelandee could get his lasers off
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u/Sad_Ad_4691 3d ago
Death battle, on YouTube settled this already
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u/TheDungeonCrawler 2d ago
I may not agree with every Death Battle, but I sure do agree with this one.
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u/Frictionizer 3d ago
Iāll be honest: I donāt think anyone who has seen both actually think that. Even huge Boys fans donāt think that.
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u/Virtual-Okra6996 3d ago
You're right. We don't. Nolan doesn't even have one of Homelanders powers and he'd still out class him
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u/neo_ceo 3d ago
That's two actually
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u/Virtual-Okra6996 3d ago
Heat vision and what else?
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u/SwampTreeOwl 3d ago
The scream and seeing through stuff that isn't zinc
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u/Stunning-Figure185 3d ago
Also super hearing
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u/OurBoyPalutena 3d ago
It is implied that they do have enhanced hearing, Nolan is many times seeing watching people talk from afar with a pissed off face (so he knows what they are saying)
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u/maqcky 2d ago
Mark mentions in a couple of occasions that "contrary to popular belief, he does not have superhearing abilities".
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u/Stunning-Figure185 2d ago
Nope. Guessing you're referring to when he's watching over Art and Debbie? I can why you'd infer that but Mark confirms they don't have super hearing.
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u/Idk_Just_Kat 3d ago
Mark and Nolan could rip every supe to shreds in a heartbeat, their biggest time-waster would be speed supes but even they would lose eventually
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u/UncleBoomie Get me pictures of Invincible! 3d ago
I donāt think even the speed supes would be an issue.
Red Rush was fast enough to leave a conversation with his wife stop a criminal and come back before his wife had even realized he left. Thereās no one in the Boys universe that is even close that that type of speed
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u/Xonerboner371 3d ago
A-train left to shoot up on compound-v and was tweaking before his race with shockwave, before his brother even noticed he was gone, and killed his girlfriend by Od-ing her before she could turn her head.
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u/Baguetterekt 3d ago
We know A train's max speed though. From the race episode, he runs 371 metres per second. This must be close to his top speed, since it was a competitive race which he really wanted to win. And he was boosted by V, so probably even faster than his true natural ability.
But let's keep the 371 m/s figure. That's actually pretty slow for a superhero speedster.
Now compare that to Red Rush who can travel from America to Russia in a few seconds.
Red Rush takes this.
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u/nilesthebuttler Bobby Hill 3d ago
Ive said this before buf A-trains top speed is really inconsistent in the boys. In one scene hes shown to be actually moving faster than starlight's light burst. Of course its possible starlight's bursts arent actually light but something closer to plasma. Coronal mass ejections can travel from about 200 to 3000 km/s, so even if they are plasma thats still several orders of magnitude faster than his speed in the race.
In another scene he says he can search the burrows of nyc in under three hours. If you do the math that would require him to run at over 40000 m/s, and thats just the surface area of nyc without taking into account searching all the floors in buildings.
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u/C9sButthole 3d ago
The NYC search thing isn't a feat. One of the boys SAYS he can do that. But that's unreliable narrator. Usually statements like that are off-the-cuff exaggeration.
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u/Baguetterekt 3d ago
The writers designed an entire scene where they explicitly gave stats on exactly how fast A train was. That cannot be ignored. I think a reasonable interpretation is that the writers think that a top speed of however many m/s is enough to explain his achievements.
The writers havent told you explicitly how fast Starlights abilities work. We can only guess.
We don't need to guess with exact numbers. And regardless, none of those feats compare to Red Rush. He's faster and he does it with such extreme precision that he can reliably rescue people and react quickly enough to avoid pedestrians, unlike A train.
And since we're talking about being able to escape Omniman, he's comparably fast while flying. For instance, flying so fast he ignites the atmosphere and causes city destroying explosions.
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u/UncleBoomie Get me pictures of Invincible! 3d ago
A-Train moved a couple hundred yards at the event with shockwave and like 10-15 feet when he killed his girlfriend.
Red Rush ran to Moscow, stopped three crimes and came back in before a sentence was finished
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u/xd3mix 3d ago
I'm not well versed with the boys but he didn't leave while someone was engaging with him though right?
He just left and came back before anyone noticed? Technically that could be achieved without super speed too (although obviously it's much easier with super speed since it's faster)
Red Rush literally ran to another city halfway across the globe, stopped a crime, and came back while also changing in and out of his hero costume and all of that while actively talking to his wife
Now he does forget his suit on at the end there, but technically we have no way of knowing how many times he was doing all that during that scene
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u/meme_will_be_memes Invincible 3d ago
But even with compound V shot up, he only ran just over Mach 1.
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u/chocolate_spaghetti 3d ago
Red Rush was staying to fight with his comrades though. A-train would 100% try to run away.
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u/UncleBoomie Get me pictures of Invincible! 3d ago
My point was essentially A-Train is very slow compared to Omni-Man
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u/Ani3Ty 3d ago
Red Rush spd = Metro Man spd???
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u/UncleBoomie Get me pictures of Invincible! 3d ago
Nah Metro man is def way faster
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u/No-Zookeepergame6638 3d ago
nah if the speed supes are willing to play catch omni man would just say fuck it and destroy the whole planet
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u/tinycyan 3d ago
UE and MM outfrescad homie no way he can kill a vegemite
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u/rubbertyrano 3d ago
Vegemite lmfao
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u/Infinity2437 3d ago
Dawg what
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u/ErandurVane 3d ago
The fuck is MM
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u/tinycyan 3d ago
Character from the boys he distracted homie with spotlights so he misfired his laser
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u/RealAd3012 Lucan 3d ago
I mean it would happen in a milk drinking competition
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u/KayKrimson 3d ago
It would also happen in "who can throw the fastest tantrum" challenge.
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u/Vegito315 Invincible 3d ago edited 3d ago
While Homie is telling mfs to blow each other Omni Man is out there conquering planets
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u/OscarDivine 3d ago
Didnāt Death Battle cover this? Omni-Man and it isnāt close.
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u/Lipinator 3d ago
"I'm gonna make you eat your own heart" - Omni man before he makes Homelander eat his own heart
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u/TomboBreaker 3d ago
They were pretty generous to Homelander IMHO in that episode and it still ended with Omni Man fulfilling the promise to make Homelander eat his own heart
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u/OscarDivine 3d ago
lol the final statistics were absurd. Omni man was 7.2 Billion times faster, 60 Billion times stronger
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u/OscarDivine 3d ago
Use a >! On one side with the mirror of that on the other side exclamation less-than
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u/ryaaan89 3d ago edited 3d ago
Homelander, the strongest character so far in The Boys show, is on par with Bulletproof, maybe. Pretty sure even the weakest Viltrumite solos every supe at the same time.
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u/PeterGriffin0920 Brit 3d ago
Which is just a weaker version of Mark who is a weaker version of a Viltrumite (for now in the show obv) who are all mostly weaker than Nolan who is weaker than Allen, Thragg and MAYBE some of the elites
HL getting washed
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u/Invisiblegun2 3d ago
Iād say heās on the same level as immortal. Or a a teeny tiny little under him.
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u/Submerged_bir 3d ago
Immortal was able to go blow for blow with Omni Man and could hurt him a little bit. I think Immortal would fold HL like laundry
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u/JustBiz_Null Pentagon - Parking in Rear 3d ago
Not at all lmao
Mark just getting his powers and throwing a ball around the world Episode 1 is leagues above anything in The Boys
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u/JustBiz_Null Pentagon - Parking in Rear 3d ago
"Whoever the writer wants wins" mfs when you show them this:
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u/seelcudoom 3d ago edited 3d ago
see theirs a lot of shit you can write to how they can pull out a million in one victory against the odds, not really with homemade though, dudes a brute who relies entirely on being the biggest fish in the smallest pond
like you can tell me the boys could figure out some bullshit to have at least a chance but homelanders going to just rush him then cry when he realizes he can't just laserbeam the problem
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u/Extrimland 3d ago
Viltrumites DO have an exploitable weakness and id say Bucther is smarter than Cecil, although he has worse equipment. That weakness being high frequencies. Still, without the proper weaponry im not sure if the Boys could pull it off even with preptime.
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u/DevilSCHNED 2d ago
Butcher is 100% NOT smarter than Cecil. A lot of his plans rely on sheer force of will and extreme luck, and have a higher chance of blowing up in his face compared to actually working, but against all odds, they do. Butcher isnāt really an āintelligentā character, but heās clever and ruthless, which is what gives him his edge over most people.
If he were given Cecilās resources, I donāt see him pulling it off; he would be far too focused on creating ways to ruthlessly exterminate his enemies, and wouldnāt think to go about things in a way that isnāt balls to the walls. Heās clever and ruthless, but also reckless, hence why a lot of people in-universe really do not like Butcher.
Cecil, on the other hand, is more of a cold and calculating kind of intelligence. Heās less reliant on brute force and knows how to keep cool under pressure, not to mention that the only reason his plans donāt work is due to the fact that heās facing superheroes on the level of gods (comparatively).
Iām not saying Butcher isnāt smart and cunning in his own ways, but compared to Cecil, heās not exactly a tactical genius. Heās the kind of guy Cecil would hire to work for his tactical geniuses that he hired for the GDA, if not work for Cecil himself.
Should also note that, afaik, itās not high frequencies, but rather a specific frequency that is what acts as a Viltrumiteās weakness.
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u/Oldwest1234 3d ago
Viltrumites do actually have another weakness that could be exploited:
Their insides are much weaker than their outside, a shrapnel bomb can eviscerate the inside of at least Mark, depending on when in the series.
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u/Extrimland 3d ago
ā¦ yeah that sounds like Something The Boys would do. I wanna see them actually fight Omni man now
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u/Aegillade Spawn 3d ago
"Powerscaling is dumb and versus debates are a waste of time" mfs when you show them this:
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u/JustBiz_Null Pentagon - Parking in Rear 3d ago
People trying to shut down these kind of discussions with those phrases gotta be one of the most boring on the planet ong. Also pretty annoying when it's spoutted whenever someone points out an outcome that doesn't make sense, as if you're not allowed to call out bs writing lol
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u/DoYouKnowS0rr0w Rudy Conners 3d ago
Brother would struggle with the mauler twins, ain't no way he's taking on omni man
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u/Quick-Command8928 3d ago
If the mauler twins have a million fans, I'm one of them. If the mauler twins have one fan, I'm it, if they have no fans, then I am dead
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u/saburra Rex Splode 3d ago
Even a mark who just got their superpowers could beat the shit out of homelander
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u/Mash_Ketchum 3d ago
"Oh crap I'm sorry, I'm still getting used to my new powers. Hey, you okay...?"
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u/Extrimland 3d ago
Hell honestly, i think Immortal would probably wipe Homelanders ass and heās hilariously weaker than The Viltrumites
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u/atomicboy47 3d ago
Pretty sure even Baby Oliver Grayson can kick Homelacker's ass
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u/Designer_Basket 3d ago
Forget even Oliver. Space Racers gun or the Ragnarrs alone would solo Boys verse.
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u/spilledmilkbro 3d ago
He clearly found Omni-man's corpse, and is using it to make people think he killed him
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u/PhilospohicalZ0mb1e 3d ago
Could he even detatch omniās head from his corpse?
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u/Honest-Ad-4386 3d ago
Bro, the guy that made this I want what heās having
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u/No-Zookeepergame6638 3d ago
i hardly believe that you really want what he got (itās probably a disorder or a handicap)
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u/RowdyEast 3d ago
They haven't watched DBZ and don't understand power levels
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u/fardnshid03 3d ago
Saiyan saga Vegeta would wipe the floor with Omni man on that note
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u/RowdyEast 3d ago
The Saiyans casually fire planet destroying beams at each other so I'd have to agree
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u/CrazyEyes326 3d ago
I think there's an argument to be made that it would be a close fight, or even that Nolan would take the win on that one.
Viltrumites are shown to have pretty high resistance to energy-based attacks. I assume he'd be able to tank ki blasts really well, and Vegeta would have to rely on just physically fighting him. Based on what we're shown of the Vegeta vs Goku fight and Nolan's beatdown of Mark (people being punched through mountains, etc.) I don't think there's that much of a gulf in their physical strength at that point. I even think Nolan might be stronger.
Plus, Nolan definitely has the upper hand in battle experience, having survived the culling of his planet's population and been a member of a galaxy-conquering warrior race for thousands of years by the events of Invincible. By contrast, Vegeta is, what, 30 at the beginning of DBZ? And he's spent most of his life In Frieza's army fighting threats that were significantly weaker than him.
Now, what happens if we take Vegeta at his word and assume that the blast he fires can shatter the Earth, and Nolan gets hit by that? I think he's cooked, energy resistance or no. And even if that doesn't happen, Vegeta can go all Great Ape and maybe that power boost is enough for him to just beat Nolan to death. But I think he gives Vegeta a much better run for his money than most people would give him credit for, and I can even see him managing a win in some situations.
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u/ChtuluOrDeath 3d ago
no way in hell. give black costume mark a good reason to fight and he'll thrash the fuck out of HL. Hell even first third of the story mark would solo him. Oh you got heat vision? too bad, I can withstand the fucking corona of the sun and go through planets while holding my breath for two weeks lmao
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u/israelirake 3d ago
The Guardians of the Globe would be enough to take him. Any instance of the team.
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u/MonkeysLoveBeer 3d ago edited 3d ago
I'm thinking even Rex can take or severely damage Homeboy. He has never fought against anyone even slightly competent.
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u/InjusticeSGmain War Woman 3d ago
Early Mark might struggle. Even then... I honestly doubt HL could damage him fast enough to win. Especially if HL proves a threat to bystanders. Mark might go into another "you guys are fucking dead" rage boost. And unlike Battle Beast, HL is neither strong or skilled enough to take him down in that state.
His only possible victory scenario is lasering Mark in a concentrated area long enough to burn through. Given that Mark is significantly faster, even in S1, I doubt this would happen.
HL vs base S1 Mark is a close shot. The moment HL kills bystanders, it stops being a fight and becomes an Invincible rampage.
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u/LeafcutterAnts 3d ago
I think if homelander plays tactically he could win with.. well not ease but he could win, but he ain't gonna play tactically is all
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u/headphones_and_chill 3d ago
Nolan wiped a whole planet.
Homie gave up even trying holding a commercial plane.
There isn't a fight, it is just another bump in a viltrumite's way
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u/Sensitive-Hotel-9871 3d ago
I will praise this as a well drawn piece of fanart even if 99% of people know that Homelander would break his hands hitting Omni-Man. So he is no doubt taking credit for someone else's work.
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u/j-e-m-8-8-8 Duct Tape Man 3d ago
The only way that's happening is if he finds omniman's dead body and claims the victory for himself
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u/Glum_Sherbert_7320 Rex Splode 3d ago
Even if their powers were identical, Omniman would wipe the floor with Homelander.
Omniman is an actual warrior with hundreds of years combat experience against other warriors. Homelander is essentially a cowardly bully used to killing regular humans.
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u/AcidaEspada 2d ago
lol homelanders whole power is based on human accomplishment
omnimans whole power is based on being better than anything a human could ever achieve lol
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u/foofie_fightie 3d ago
Someone else said it too, but Hughie is alive. If HL couldn't kill someone untrained in their powers, he couldn't stand a chance against any Viltrumite
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u/lightningnutz 3d ago
This is an unbelievably exhausting conversation that you people keep recycling
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u/Retrotaku 3d ago
Bruh homlander could never beat Nolan legit this is such wishful thinking hahahaha
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u/SpamQanduseflash 2d ago
There are also people who think Avengers stand a chance against Omni-man
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u/xX_Flamez_Xx 3d ago
Not a single soul. And I mean not a single soul has ever said this would happen. Stop rage baiting people with these titles.
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u/SuspiciousString3 3d ago
I love how nearly everyone agrees that the second HL leaves his universe he gets his ass beat.
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u/SuccessfulWar3830 3d ago
homeland was stopped by a few rocks.
The guardians kill him in 3 seconds.
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u/Own_Tackle514 3d ago
planet conquering alien, the literal peak of evolution VS psychotic insecure man baby thatās power came out of a fucking tube
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u/Penguinmanereikel Allen the Alien 3d ago
LMAO! Like the guy who's profession it is to eliminate entire planets with, at max, like 4 of his own people vs the guy who has never had a real fight.
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u/SnooSnoota 3d ago
And they are still weak, compared to Dr. Manhattan.
For me, Dr. Manhattan is the ultimate goat.
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u/AccidentalLemon 2d ago
Omni-Man or Mark donāt even have to fight, they can just fucking speed blitz him
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u/AleksasKoval Banished to Hell 3d ago
"Pfft, yeah right! Like THAT'S ever gonna happen."
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u/No-Perspective2580 3d ago
Omniman bodies Homelander, it's literally no contest. And I don't mean it metaphorically or rhetorically or poetically or theoretically or any other fancy way. Omniman wins straight up.
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u/After_Stick1676 3d ago
Omni-Man has thousands of years of Viltrumite military training/ tactics on how to effectively use his powers while Homelander can't even strategize how to bring a civilian hijacked plane down safely
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u/Better_Sandwich_5687 3d ago
I mean, Kirkman likes to tell himself that Invincible can beat Superman.
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u/ShadyRedSniper 3d ago
Homelanderās durability and strength arenāt really shown in the comics, only said. In the show, bro can be killed by a pen through the ear. Also, his arrogance is easily exploited and heās a very lazy fighter. Tien Shinhan could dog walk his ass.
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u/munk_006 3d ago
Canonically omni-man has stated most problems can be solved by throwing it into space. Homelands can't breath in space. Homelands also can't fly while holding anything of substantial weight, omniman can. That's the simplest argument needed.
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u/AntiShisno 3d ago
This is like saying a guy who lifts in his downtime could body a pro-boxing champ of several years
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u/B0BB00B 3d ago
i think its homelanders lasers that make him unbeatable. From far away he could tear them apart
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u/StannisLivesOn 3d ago
Homelander couldn't kill Hughie.