r/Invincible • u/Dr_Turkenstein Guardians of the Globe • Apr 21 '24

How well would the original guardians fair against battle beast? COMIC SPOILERS

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u/GameOverVirus Apr 21 '24

Comics Omni-Man

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u/Unigraff_Jerpony Comic Fan Apr 21 '24

ah yes, 6 panels

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u/This_place_is_wierd Omni-Man and Invincible Apr 21 '24

I'd say 7 panels.

3 panels where BB kills some Guardians Then 1 panel where he complains at how pathetic they are and then 3 more killings

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u/nhansieu1 Viltrum Apr 22 '24

There's no honor in killing insect. They might be alive confronting Battle Beast

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u/ExpiredMilknCheese Apr 21 '24

To those that aren’t aware, Comics Omni-Man literally shat on the Guardians. He didn’t get hurt once.

Atleast in the show it was close.

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u/symbiedgehog Oliver Grayson Apr 21 '24

Comics Omni-Man literally shat on the Guardians

Damn... I knew Viltrumite tactics are dirty but to that point?

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u/LexeComplexe Apr 21 '24

What will you have after 500 years?

"Shit in my pants dad"

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u/Regi413 Apr 22 '24

is this a statement or a command?

(I have) shit in my pants dad

(Please) shit in my pants dad

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u/DaBego1 Apr 22 '24

There is something so wrong with this community

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u/nhansieu1 Viltrum Apr 22 '24

How did you get that strong, dad?

Shitting your pant on purpose. 

Wait, how did you know how that feels??

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u/LexeComplexe Apr 22 '24

( ͡°( ͡° ͜ʖ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ʖ ͡°) ͡°)

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u/i_m_shadyyyy Apr 21 '24

I spilled my water

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u/spidermanrocks6766 Debbie Grayson Apr 21 '24 edited Apr 21 '24

I honestly hated how easily they went down in the comics. Even Robert Kirkman himself said that he kind of regretted how he made them all go down without any effort. It always annoys me when a show like this or DBZ for example has literally ONE character being the most powerful and everyone else is just basically fodder. I'm really glad in the show it did them justice by having them actually almost kill Omni Man and put up a decent fight. They only lost because they were caught off guard and holding back

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u/running_later Two-Punch Man Apr 22 '24

except for One Punch Man, where it's the actual premise of the show....

:-)

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u/Dward917 Apr 22 '24

True. But they do a good job of making him show up late. Plus gotta love the running joke that everyone that matters can’t believe he is that strong even when he shows how strong he is right to their face. How King managed to get No. 2 ranking just by being in the right place when Saitama does something awesome is beyond me.

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u/jorhey14 Apr 22 '24

King is the one that takes all the credit for Saitama’s kills. That how he got to #2 and the worst part they just assume it’s him. They didn’t listen to him and now he is in too deep.

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u/RioKarji Apr 22 '24 edited Apr 24 '24

King is lucky number 7.

Number 2 is Tatsumaki, the “Tornado of Terror”. The psychic sister who kinda looks like a brocoli with a black stem if you squint at her from a distance.

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u/jorhey14 May 05 '24

My fault got my numbers mix up.

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u/5213 Apr 22 '24

I disagree with "everyone that matters can't believe it", but I'm going purely off the anime as I haven't read the original web comic or the Manga. I feel like some of the s rank have realized, like Tatsumaki and Bang.

I do love how opposed the reactions are to King and Saitama, which I get is the point, but it's done well. Everybody makes every excuse for why Saitama isn't actually insanely strong and everybody comes up with the most bullshit reason why King is Uber powerful, like when he didn't cut the apple cause he couldn't even get the blade unsheathed 😂

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u/Narrow_Ad3565 Apr 22 '24

Ummm no tatsumaki realises that onky in the manga

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u/Future-Muscle-2214 Apr 22 '24

Yeah even Mark struggle a lot more in the show than he usually do in the comics which doesn't always make sense considering how quick and powerful viltrumites are.

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u/EnricoPucciC-Moon Apr 21 '24

Thing with DB right now is there's actually a case for Goku, Vegeta, Broly, and Gohan for who is the strongest now, atleast compared to the God's of Destruction and Angels

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u/migsterofthenorth Apr 22 '24

Tbf omni-man did it that way in the comics coz he knew if he had time to think hed knew it was wrong but in the show he hasnt fully understood how he feels till he sees his new bug peeps getting massacred then relises how he caused people to feel this way on earth where as in the comics he was just denying how he felt but still knew how wrong it was

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u/SeatO_ Apr 22 '24

He kinda redeemed himself in Reboot? where they outright got him

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u/Agreeable-Leather978 Apr 22 '24

i don’t think they almost killed him. but the fact they were able to hurt him shows they were a very elite super hero team. i think they would’ve faired well against a weaker viltrumite if they were prepared

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u/Winn3rB0y2 Battle Beast Apr 21 '24

Its funny how language has changed that you are using the word literally, but you dont literally mean that he pulled down his pants and took a poop on them. 🤣

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u/Redscream667 Apr 21 '24

He was so disgusted at how weak they were that he took a crap on their corpses.

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u/avelineaurora Apr 21 '24

literally shat on the Guardians

Um...

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u/Appropriate_Duty7926 Apr 21 '24

I literally interpreted your literally literally and literally thought Omni-man literally shat on the guardians, confusion ensued.

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u/Opposite-Tangerine57 Apr 21 '24

How did you say literally almost 3 times in a row and it actually made sense

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u/PantsTheFungus Apr 21 '24

They used it in the literal sense

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u/saladx11 Apr 21 '24

Almost 3? When it’s 5

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u/SurpriseJazzlike9587 Apr 22 '24

He meant that there were 3 uses of the word “literally” in quick succession, one after another.

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u/Dear_Print6415 Apr 21 '24

He only won because he surprised them. We shouldn’t assume surprise from anyone in this; battle beast still clears.

The guardians beat Omni man when they were given warning (not prep time). People always say mark helps but he didn’t really much but warn them

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u/Lucky_Roberts Spawn Apr 21 '24

In the show it was intentionally close to cover his tracks better

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u/Special_Elevator_603 Apr 21 '24

It definitely wasn’t. Nolan being at the scene of the crime put more suspicion on him and you could tell he didn’t plan to go down there because his excuse for how they were all defeated wasn’t really given much thought. Based on the way Nolan comes flying fist first into the scene, he was probably hoping to take them out the same way he did in the comics.

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u/WolkTGL Apr 22 '24

Especially because Nolan is the only one there that wasn't "finished off". Immortal was beheaded, War Woman had her neck completely broken, the others were effectively reduced to pulp but him?
He was left there with some beatings. That would've made sense if the guy who supposedly did it was laying there dead (Nolan beat him, but he then lost consciousness from the beating) but with the scene provided, his excuse was "whoever did this killed everyone but cold only put Omniman out of commission without finishing him for some reason"

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u/treetopkingdom The Elephant Apr 21 '24

It was not, the comic guardians literally couldn’t hurt him. At most theyd get a little spittle of blood after a really long double team combo.

In the show they are a genuine threat, red rush is genuinely faster than nolan. And capable of doing a lot of damage. All the heavy hitters are

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u/Pyrotekknikk Apr 21 '24

Why did you turn into Yoda on the least 2 sentences

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u/BigNorseWolf Robot Apr 21 '24

laying down some wisdom farmboy needs to hear he is.

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u/treetopkingdom The Elephant Apr 21 '24

I don’t see how that’s yoda.

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u/Intrepid_Cabinet9795 Apr 21 '24

“Capable of doing a lot of damage, all the heavy hitters are” is probably how they read it coming out kinda yoda like

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u/treetopkingdom The Elephant Apr 21 '24

Oh, yeah I can see that

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u/Impossible_Ad1515 Apr 22 '24

"And capable of doing heavy damage all the heavy hitters are"

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u/treetopkingdom The Elephant Apr 22 '24

Yeah, they just missed the period. It’s a different sentence.

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u/thelastpariah Apr 21 '24

Does that mean the whole "Nolan in a coma" thing after the fight didn't happen in the comics? Or did he just fake a coma?

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u/Friendly_Kunt Apr 21 '24

That actually did make the show make more sense. He was supposed to weaken Earth’s forces for the coming takeover of the planet, but if they posed 0 threat to him then it made no sense to do it when he idd in the comics because that would blow his cover. His main focus needed to be convincing Mark to join the Viltrumite empire which he didn’t really try that hard to do during the beginning.

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u/NotAGingerMidget Battle Beast Apr 22 '24

It was not, the comic guardians literally couldn’t hurt him.

They can, down the line in the time skip they contain him, Mark at that point didn't really have powers.

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u/tomiwa06 Apr 22 '24

In reboot, the fight between them is a lot closed

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u/Future-Muscle-2214 Apr 22 '24

There was no reason for him to be there, if he killed them and left he would have covered his tracks better.

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u/Mammoth-Ad6919 Apr 21 '24

This makes no sense and I have no idea how people keep spouting this obviously wrong idea like it’s fact

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u/BrrToe Apr 22 '24

Yea, If I'm trying to get away with murder, I'm definitely not trying to get caught at the scene of the crime.

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u/SnooLemons4235 Apr 21 '24

My understanding was show Omni Man let himself get beat down to sell the lie.

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u/SamuraiJack- Apr 21 '24 edited Apr 21 '24

But that’s what got him caught. All the evidence left in his suit from letting the guardians touch all up on him so much. I guess it could’ve just been oversight on Onmi Man’s part, but that’s a little lame. Maybe he didn’t think Art would have told Debbie?

Edit: I forgot that Debbie gave it to Art, not Nolan. Point still remains that Nolan didn’t have a plan and his suit definitely wasn’t supposed to have that much evidence on it.

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u/Special_Elevator_603 Apr 21 '24

I’m surprised so many people think this. Nolan being found at the scene of crime actually put more suspicion on him because he was now connected directly to it. Not to mention how Nolan clearly hadn’t given much thought to his story for how he and the Guardians could all be defeated as it doesn’t make sense that someone would kill all the Guardians and not finish off Nolan.

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u/Life-giver Apr 21 '24

Wasn’t that because he caught them by surprise

When the reboot happened They won

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u/Dark_Storm_98 Apr 21 '24

I don't read the comics

But from what people are saying in the comments, that could be something of a soft-retcon

People are saying that the author actually regretted the Guardians going down so easily (maybe the show happens the way it does because he voiced this to the production team)

So maybe the fight is partially much closer in the reboot arc because he wanted to do the Guardians a little bit of justice

There is also the addition of Mark warning them Omni-Man was out for blood

But from what I remember of a synopsis of both fights, the comics Guardians as they are initially portrayed would not have stood a chance even with warning, but then in the reboot arc they win with, as some people say, minimal assistance from Mark

Sounds like a bit of revisionism, but for the better

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u/Intrepid00 Damien Darkblood Apr 21 '24

The show did it better, it established he did have to take them out. Comics leaves it as just pointless if not a threat.

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u/Redscream667 Apr 21 '24

I mean, even in the comics, the guardians won when all Mark gave them was a warning that omniman was gonna betray them.

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u/Stunning_Diver483 Apr 22 '24

But alternative timeline they defeats omni man.

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u/Kidwa96 Tech Jacket Apr 22 '24

Honestly liked how the show handled it and the subsequent investigation by Damien Darkblood. A lot better than the comics.

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u/5213 Apr 22 '24

Tbf, he did sneak attack all of them. I think only Immortal was actually aware but still couldn't do anything to actually fight back

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u/ClayBunny Apr 22 '24

The show did it better

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u/RazutoUchiha Mark Grayson Apr 21 '24

That’s FOUL

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u/_Alex_Zer0_ Apr 22 '24

So they’d win?