r/Invincible Battle Beast Apr 02 '24

Is Mark Korean-American in the comics as well? DISCUSSION

I thought his race/ethnicity was something present in the comics but I’ve been reading through them and have found no mention of it so far

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u/breath_ofthemild Apr 02 '24

Danny Phantom and My Life as a Teenage Robot had similar experiences, with polar opposite reactions from their creators. Both shows were perceived by fans as an allegory for transgender teenagers. Butch Hartman, creator of Danny Phantom, caught wind of this and IMMEDIATELY got on the defensive, saying that it was in no way attached to LGBT storytelling whatsoever. Rob Renzetti, the creator of Teenage Robot, pretty much said “that was not at all my intention, but hell yeah sure”

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u/gumptiousguillotine Apr 02 '24

I never considered either of them like that but they were both my favorite nicktoons growing up (the MLAATR Christmas special is one of my favorite animated things ever to this day) but it makes so much sense. I’m a nonbinary transmasculine person who does both male and female drag and always identified with how “othered” both of the MCs of these shows were within their respective narratives.

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u/RazzDaNinja Apr 02 '24

I am ignorant of this history and would like to learn more as to how Danny Phantom n Teenage Robot were allegories of trans kids

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u/breath_ofthemild Apr 03 '24

For Danny Phantom, it’s all about Danny’s perspective. While a lot of his tension is centered around basic teenage anxieties, an overarching tension is his parents and their tirade against ghosts. They work as ghost hunters, and with Danny secretly being a ghost himself, he never “comes out” to his parents about who he is as he is worried about what they’ll do to him if they ever find out. And his parents, having no idea what he truly is, continue to talk about ghosts as disgusting creatures, unwittingly becoming their son’s first and most serious enemy. Not the ghosts he fights nor the bullies at school are the ones he fears most, but rather his parents. On top of general themes like his struggling with the perception of masculinity, it’s easy to see how this could be seen in a light mirroring the LGBT teenage experience.

For MLAATR, it’s all about Jenny’s sense of identity. Her mother created her to be a robotic protector of Earth called XJ-9, Jenny insists on living life as a normal teenager, attending school and dealing with average teenage nonsense. A lot of tension comes from her mother’s refusal to fully accept this decision Jenny’s made (even “deadnaming” Jenny throughout the series) and Jenny’s feelings of body dysmorphia, with her at one point even donning a skin suit that had her “pass” as a biological human. All in that frame of mind, if the series were written today, this probably would have been a more intentional decision, but as it stands, the creator more treats it as a happy accident of sorts

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u/Xerneous12_ Omni-Drip Apr 03 '24

Tbh I don’t feel like there’s anything wrong with a creator saying the allegory wasn’t his intention. People can have their fan theories sure, but why is the creator ‘defensive’ for saying no to their ideas?

I’ve never seen these allegories purported back when the shows were airing at all. Nothing wrong with it, people can have any opinion they want, & the creator isn’t ‘defensive’ for correcting them.

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u/sodapopgumdroplowtop Apr 03 '24

which characters would that be exactly

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u/Dziadzios Apr 03 '24

Butch Hartman is a Christian fanatic. He even tried to make a Christian Netflix (Oaxis).