r/Invincible • u/RevolutionaryGrape11 • Dec 16 '23

Do you think the Guardians Of The Globe could have won if Red Rush had stuck to just bailing the others out of death and hadn't attacked himself, or do you think everyone was doomed no matter what? They did put up a great fight even after he was removed, so I think it's plausible they could have. DISCUSSION

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u/Paragonoreo Dec 16 '23

Comic spoilers: he was holding back substantially

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '23

While I didn’t read the first thirteen issues, I’m aware. However, I do know the show changed a lot about that fight. He wrecked them easily in the comic.

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u/TSM- Dec 16 '23

This was improved in the show, to explain why he had to kill the guardians (but not other superhero teams). It was a close fight.

The comics messed it up by doing it in one "whoa" page where he just kills each one, one per panel. But that made it seem unnecessary. Later on, in the time reset, it's shown that the Guardians could beat Nolan with prep time, after Invincible warned them which, lore-wise, overrides the fast action of the first encounter in the early issues.

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u/Parking-Bat9498 Dec 16 '23

I came here to say this and you said it perfectly. Well done. Definitely possible with what you said.

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '23

True.

So, with that, how did the person I’m replying to figure that OM was, “holding back substantially,” and consider it a comic spoiler?

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u/Beautiful_Point857 Dec 17 '23

Did you just gloss over the with prep time part? With enough prep and know how an ant could take down an elephant.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '23
  1. I disagree with that analogy.
  2. I read the comics. They literally only got a warning and a very small amount of help by Invincible during the fight.
  3. With number two, if the Globe had that much of a chance, why would Omni-Man ever hold back substantially?

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u/Matrix17 Dec 16 '23

Yeah but in the comic he killed them way faster

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u/Beware_of_Beware Dec 17 '23

The idea of Nolan doing that yet still brutally crushing Red Rush's skull with his bare hands is just gruesome

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u/Brilliant-Mountain57 Dec 16 '23

Probably from The Comics

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u/8dev8 Cecil Stedman Dec 16 '23

The same comic where a forewarned set of guardians beat him?

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u/LeSnazzyGamer Dec 16 '23

The same comics where in the reboot arc, they beat him because they knew he was coming?

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u/PepperbroniFrom2B Doc Seismic Dec 16 '23

the comics aren't the show

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u/ARC4120 Dec 16 '23

The guardians beat Nolan in an alternate timeline, so I’m not sure why you were downvoted. He clearly ambushed them for a reason. Also, why would Nolan hold back if he was going to kill them quickly anyways, that doesn’t make any sense.

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u/NoshoRed Dec 16 '23

He ambushed them so it was cleaner and more convenient. Would have been harder to keep it all secret if he began killing them one by one, also obviously killing them one by one would have been way easier too than taking them on all at once.

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u/delcrossb Dec 16 '23

Realistically though, show Nolan has shown he can easily decimate a planet. He “ambushed” them as an act of subterfuge because he just want to take them out. Full rampage Nolan, akin to what happened to the Flaxans, would easily destroy them all. It just wouldn’t be subtle, which is what he was going for.

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u/AspirationalChoker The Viltrumites Dec 16 '23

Decimate cities on a planet not the planet itself

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u/StickSentryNig Allen the Alien Dec 16 '23

The comics are the source material for the show

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u/PepperbroniFrom2B Doc Seismic Dec 16 '23

ok?

but they're not 100% =

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