r/Invincible Nov 26 '23

ANIMATION DISCOURSE S2 DISCUSSION

So it seems like since the last episode dropped, there’s been a lot of discourse around the animation for Season 2 overall. I’m going to try to give my most level-headed thoughts on this. As a passionate fan of the comic, after seeing how they adapted the fight on Thraxa, in my opinion the fight lacked and underdelivered on the sheer visceral gore and ferocity in the comic. This is one of the first few times I think that the show paled in comparison to the comic in terms of the scale, spectacle and amount of detail that was put into the comic. The issue is less about the blood and gore being shown in the episode, it’s more about the level of detail of the gore, battle damage and destruction. I think there’s nothing wrong in constructively levying criticism to a property I’ve immensely loved and only want to see thrive and constantly improve. In season 1 a lot of the focal moments like Guardians massacre, Machine head fight, Omni Man/Invincible showdown and by extension the Atom Eve special episode were massively improved and the elevated in grandiosity, scope and brutality, which is what I was expecting for the Thraxa fight but unfortunately its came off a bit weaker for me than the source material. Now overall I do think that S2 has stepped up the animation in terms of the character models, lighting and lack of CG models in the background, but it hasn’t made the animation really count where it matters most like in S1.

I think a lot of the fans that have concerns about how certain moments will be adapted in terms of the animation are valid. The comics only get crazier in blood, gore and spectacle from the Thraxa arc and if this animation we got for Thraxa is emblematic of how future moments will get translated, I think it’s alright to be mildly concerned. Now is it possible that they repurposed most of the budget towards the second half and namely the finale, where we’ll see the animation shine and pop off, sure. Until then I can only judge off of what we have so far. What do you guys think?

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u/ecxetra Battle Beast Nov 26 '23

Some shots are legit just pngs being dragged across the screen tho.

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u/MLG-Hilp Nov 27 '23

I can’t remember the exact scene, but it’s from season 1. Invincible is rolling through the city street after being punched and it looks like someone is just rotating an image on Microsoft word

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u/No_Contribution2112 Nov 27 '23

There are scenes of mark flying in season 1 where they just take a png of him and move it around a bit to make it look like hes hovering

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u/Anamethatisname Nov 27 '23

And season 2. I think there was a scene where he was carrying his girlfriend to the Eiffel tower in Vegas like that. Although, I don’t consider that bad animation if it still fits the imagined scene, not like everything has to be AAA quality all the time

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '23

A moving png is a lazy and cheap animation but it can work, but it doesn't work in this specific scene you mentionned because Amber's blindfold isn't even moving.

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u/Karkava Monster Girl Nov 27 '23

Fun fact: Superman originally didn't fly until the theatrical cartoons because flying was easy to animate. He originally had super jumping, in reference to the phrase "able to leap tall buildings in a single bound".

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u/Kaaloyyy Nov 27 '23

it was legit two different images of mark rolling it was really obvious i didn’t mind but it was really distracting 😭

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u/athiaxoff Nov 27 '23

His fight against killcannon I think is what you're talking about, vividly remember that low quality roll he gets sent on lmao

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u/NotASlapper Apr 22 '24

there's scenes like that all over the first and second seasons and not just with flying

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '23

I really thought they’d avoid that shit this season but I guess not. Seems like it wasn’t just a covid issue

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u/modernisedtypewriter Nov 27 '23

I liked that little visual I thought it was intentional

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u/TheDarkWarriorBlake Nov 26 '23

Especially omni man hovering. Few times it happened this season it made me think of aqua teen hunger force

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u/stickywhitesubstance Nov 27 '23

I love that Omni man flies like that, it’s very intentional. Flying through walls and stuff while being 100% unaffected is badass.

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u/TheDarkWarriorBlake Nov 27 '23

It's not the hovering, it's the animation, it looks like they've just taken a still image and keyframed it to move from one location to another, there's something uncanny about it whether it's shadows, shading or relation to the background it looks cheap.

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u/imyourhabibi Nov 27 '23

The shot of the lady flying out of the house after Omni man blows it up legit looks like something OneyNG would’ve made as a joke, it’s nuts

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u/YoelRomeroNephew69 Nov 27 '23

There's a LOT of that with Omni Man flying. The Invincible animation studio just... isn't good enough which is a damn shame.

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u/just_a_funguy Nov 28 '23

Lol yeah! My sister who doesn't even watch the show even pointed out why does it look like a slide show with the background moving and the character completely static on screen

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u/AssCrackBanditHunter Nov 27 '23

Yeah there was one scene in EP 1 or 2 where mark is flying with amber and it's just a still image sliding up into the air and then being shrunk to convey the idea that he's flying up and away.

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u/SniffMySwampAss Nov 27 '23

When is Mark gonna go to a signing by the Seance Dog animated show director and ask "why do you use still images so much" and "doesn't that seem a little cheap?" Followed by a 5 minute still shot of the director staring blankly at him before saying "no"

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u/just_a_funguy Nov 28 '23

They don't even bob slightly up and down when they hover in the sky. That would be something that won't be that had to do and would make scenes of people talking in the sky more dynamic

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u/Cautious-Affect7907 Nov 27 '23

It’s especially bad in some of the flying scenes.

It’s almost funny, like I think episode 2 when mark was carrying Amber.

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u/The-master-of-comedy Nov 28 '23

When Omni man looks at his hands after being mark and it just drags a png from the bottom of the frame 💀