r/Invincible Nov 26 '23

ANIMATION DISCOURSE S2 DISCUSSION

So it seems like since the last episode dropped, there’s been a lot of discourse around the animation for Season 2 overall. I’m going to try to give my most level-headed thoughts on this. As a passionate fan of the comic, after seeing how they adapted the fight on Thraxa, in my opinion the fight lacked and underdelivered on the sheer visceral gore and ferocity in the comic. This is one of the first few times I think that the show paled in comparison to the comic in terms of the scale, spectacle and amount of detail that was put into the comic. The issue is less about the blood and gore being shown in the episode, it’s more about the level of detail of the gore, battle damage and destruction. I think there’s nothing wrong in constructively levying criticism to a property I’ve immensely loved and only want to see thrive and constantly improve. In season 1 a lot of the focal moments like Guardians massacre, Machine head fight, Omni Man/Invincible showdown and by extension the Atom Eve special episode were massively improved and the elevated in grandiosity, scope and brutality, which is what I was expecting for the Thraxa fight but unfortunately its came off a bit weaker for me than the source material. Now overall I do think that S2 has stepped up the animation in terms of the character models, lighting and lack of CG models in the background, but it hasn’t made the animation really count where it matters most like in S1.

I think a lot of the fans that have concerns about how certain moments will be adapted in terms of the animation are valid. The comics only get crazier in blood, gore and spectacle from the Thraxa arc and if this animation we got for Thraxa is emblematic of how future moments will get translated, I think it’s alright to be mildly concerned. Now is it possible that they repurposed most of the budget towards the second half and namely the finale, where we’ll see the animation shine and pop off, sure. Until then I can only judge off of what we have so far. What do you guys think?

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u/Decaps86 Nov 26 '23

It seems like people are forgetting that animation and comic artistry are different. You can fit a tonne of detail in one panel but making it flow in animation is completely different. It's almost impossible to compare. The animation in season 1 isn't that great as people remember. I consider the slight change in art style a lateral move.

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u/BigBoi1159511 Nov 26 '23

Nope, Japanese have figured it out with manga and anime

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u/Gelkor Nov 26 '23 edited Nov 26 '23

I mean, have you seen the discourse around different Anime studios respective adaptations of certain manga? Because this exact conversation has been happening in the Manga to Anime spaces for decades.

Some do it good, some do it reaaaaalllly bad. Like, One Punch Man S2 basically caused an implosion due to the quality drop going from a once-in-a-life-time collaboration of veteran auteur directors in S1 to just a regular working anime studio in S2. People lost their damn minds, and still are.

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u/Eem2wavy34 Nov 27 '23

I mean that doesn’t really discredit what he stated. Most Japanese anime have figured it out doesn’t mean there won’t be pot holes here and there tho

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u/PurpleMarvelous Nov 26 '23

Japan, China, and even other countries are figuring it out.

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u/AscendantAxo Nov 27 '23

Yeah, by famously abusing their animators dude lol

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u/TelevisionExpress616 Nov 26 '23

I mean not 1:1. As amazing as OPM season 1 anime is…it still doesnt convey half as much detail as Murata draws. Though I do think Invincible’s animation quality should skyrocket dramatically, and maybe spend less on the VA budget. I like Kregg’s VA a lot but he’s kind of a minor character, he doesnt need a big budget actor playing him

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u/ItsNorthGaming Nov 26 '23

wait is that really why the animation isn’t that good? because they blew their budget with the VA’s?? it’s an animated show!! It doesn’t even need big-name actors (besides JK simmons, the show wouldn’t be the same without him)

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u/binoculustf2 Nov 26 '23

Yeah, they also have huge budgets, overworked studios, and 4 years between seasons

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u/BigBoi1159511 Nov 27 '23

So does Invincible its funded by Amazon and been on break for like 3 years

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u/binoculustf2 Nov 27 '23

Invincible has a small and new team, and just because Amazon is wealthy doesn't mean they have funding, they were on break because they started from scratch again, anime doesn't do that usually (they were on break for 2.5 years which is little over a half of what anime takes)