r/Invincible • u/Monkelover2 Battle Beast • Nov 21 '23

Thats enough Invincible for today. COMIC SPOILERS

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u/Hot_Tip_8239 Nov 21 '23

The timing of this scene was bizarre. Mark had been established as strong enough to fight her off at that point.

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u/Taurius Nov 21 '23

That's why he was going through a mental breakdown. "Did I not fight hard enough because I wanted it?"

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u/Hot_Tip_8239 Nov 21 '23

Doesn't that happen on almost all rape cases? Self blame is common.

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u/DapperDan30 Nov 21 '23

Yes, but this way it couldn't be argued that Mark physically couldn't do it. It adds an extra dynamic, and real life feelings, that Mark could have fought her off if he really wanted to, but just didnt.

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u/maledin Allen the Alien Nov 22 '23

He may have been strong enough to fight her off physically, but perhaps he wasn’t strong enough mentally/emotionally.

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u/MeasurementNo2493 Nov 22 '23

I always took the undertone to be that Mark was not a killer, and that made him hold back. The only way to stop a Viltrumite is ti be willing to use any and all force available. And Mark couldn't do that...yet.

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u/Bane-- Nov 22 '23

I mean he killed Conquest twice by this point

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u/Locem Nov 21 '23

Fair, but I can rationalize it in that he wasn't in a good headspace at the moment. His pregnant girlfriend had just dumped him after he was stranded in another dimension by someone he thought was a friend/ally.

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u/PCN24454 Nov 21 '23

She’s older and more experienced. That means she’s able to be more consistently strong.

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u/AspirationalChoker The Viltrumites Nov 21 '23 edited Nov 22 '23

He's already faced a far stronger Viltrumite by this time, it's more mental / emotional shit holding him back than his muscles

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u/Hot_Tip_8239 Nov 22 '23

Having re-read the scene I agree. He was a wreck at the time and he didn't want to really hurt her.

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u/AspirationalChoker The Viltrumites Nov 22 '23

Yep it's a bit of that, bit of the Eve stuff and then also just the actual attack on him he's so conflicted.

We see not long after how easily Nolan had a hold of her, sure she's still one of the higher end but the jump to Mark / Nolan is big especially considering like I said Mark had already faced Conquest a bunch who's above those two again.

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u/Familiar-Goose5967 Nov 21 '23

Yeah, but he beat Conquest by being more invested, as Omniman said. He wanted to KILL conquest, while the latter was still mucking around a bit. Like, nothing about either of those fights does Invincible seem physically stronger than Conquest.

I think it's fair to say that at this point, Anissa is still a fair bit stronger than Mark, and he wasn't going to get her off without going for the throat (literally and figuratively). And as much as he didn't want it to happen, he wasn't going to go that far, on this instance

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u/hatefulone851 Nov 22 '23

I mean he did but he didn’t really win in a fight. He kept conquest from breathing and that’s how he won. Marks gotten stronger but experience as a fighter still matters

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u/MeasurementNo2493 Nov 22 '23

Nah, she was no Conquest. Though she might have been that strong, it was never clear...to me....

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u/thebigmanhastherock Robot Nov 22 '23

Wasn't he recovering from being blasted with the plague? His powers were back but not completely.

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u/bendaonfire007 Atom Eve Nov 21 '23

Maybe they should make it earlier then?

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u/Tyranis_Hex Nov 21 '23

It’s a small time frame that it works though. You can’t do it the first time she shows up cause she won’t have any real reason to do it at that point in the story though it would make an interesting season finale. I think they just need to set her up as one of the stronger Viltrim which should be easy enough.

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u/Hot_Tip_8239 Nov 22 '23

He should but this period in the story is very dense with events.