r/Invincible • u/mwthecool Omni-Mod • Nov 17 '23

Invincible [Episode Discussion] - S02E03 - This Missive, This Machination! EPISODE DISCUSSION

Episode 3 - This Missive, This Machination!

Mark starts his college career, Debbie struggles with personal trauma, and Allen the Alien returns home to find a new threat facing the Coalition of Planets.

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u/NinduTheWise Nov 17 '23

Bay verse Optimus was a serial killer and a psychopath

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u/Chemical_Swimming_90 Nov 17 '23

There's a good video explaining why was he more and more brutal each movie. He was basically pissed pulling his punches and not finishing off Deceptions got him killed.

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u/Financial_Rent_7978 Killcannon Nov 17 '23

I know, I agree, reread my comment

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u/300andWhat Nov 17 '23

Wait, what? why?

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u/canisignupnow Rex Splode Nov 17 '23 edited Feb 14 '24

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u/Internal-Contact1656 Nov 18 '23

And bayverse decepticons had it coming, five separate genocide attempts against earth and the only one actually getting shit done in those movies was Optimus. Idk why we act like primes the standout when every character in the bayverse was brutal

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u/Karkava Monster Girl Nov 17 '23

The bayverse has a very horrendous idea of heroism. Hey, Bay! You're not a hero just because you hang up a national flag and carry a gun!

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u/Financial_Rent_7978 Killcannon Nov 17 '23

Bayverse Optimus is a serial killer, like I said, but… what? I don’t think Bayverse Optimus ever does anything with a national flag, and the villains all carry guns too…

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u/IntelligentBerry7363 Nov 17 '23

Dude was Venger in the D&D Cartoon, he knows how to be evil.

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u/DiseaseRidden Nov 17 '23

I don't fully buy that he's the mole. Beyond the fact that it'd be too obvious, why would he even mention there being a mole? Especially if he knew the viltrumites would come anyway? Seems like an unnecessary way to draw suspicion. Shutting off the life support could also be as much to make sure the viltrumites couldn't get information on Mark out of him, and he did apologize as he did it.

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u/jamaes1 Nov 17 '23

I kind of agree with you, but still, how much more info can they get from Allen that they couldn't get from anyone else from the council who was present when Allen told them about Mark? They all know Mark is from Earth, is Optimus Prime guy going to silence the whole council?

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u/PickleGaGa Nov 17 '23

Maybe he's faking his death for idk why.

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u/sudopm Nov 20 '23 edited Nov 20 '23

Given how powerful they are in the first place I don't really get why they couldn't just wipe out their whole operation right then and there.

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u/Heyyoguy123 Nov 20 '23

I got a feeling that the Coalition has some pretty powerful weaponry or tech that could kill Viltrumites, while the Viltrumites could just blitz through the Coalition soldiers. They’re essentially at a stalemate, which is why either side hasn’t been annihilated yet. Either side could attack, but it would result in both sides taking heavy losses, so they just sorta dance around each other

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u/23Conflagration32 Nov 18 '23

Maybe optimus has a deal with the viltrumites

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u/ILoveRegenHealth Nov 17 '23

That girlfriend was eating from a creature with a brain exposed. She's the devil.

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u/Generic_user_person Nov 17 '23

Too obvious.

Doesnt make sense to tell Allen there is a mole, only for the Viltrumites to attack nxt day.

Lets be real, only half a dozen ppl were at the council meeting, and only 1 person that wasnt Optimus Prime spoke up. If i were a betting man (and i am, its a terrible problem) i'd wager its on the dude who spent the entire meeting complaining about Allens Intel.

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u/huskyoncaffeine Nov 17 '23

Well... I think that's a red herring.

Try to think like a pragmatic.

Allen is the only person with more information on the matter. If there is a spy on the council, the Viltrumites have the basic information, but not many details. Now that they are aware of it, Allen has become a liability. Not only could the Viltrumites try to extract that information from Allen, they already proved they are capable to do so and could try again.

Taking Allen out of the picture is one way to ensure momentary operational security.

If the Viltrumites get Allen to give up the intel, the coalition's chances ger slimmer. But with Allen gone, there is a chamce for the Coalition to learn more about Earth, ahead of the Viltrumites.

The mere potential of Invincible is a greater asset than Allen, and the latter is a potential liability in the protection of said asset.

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u/pseudo_nemesis Nov 19 '23

I agree with you, and the fact that he apologized to Allen pretty much seals it for me, that he's trying to kill Allen to protect their information/themselves.