r/FluentInFinance • u/The-Lucky-Investor • 13d ago

“Medicare for All” would save the U.S $5.1 Trillion over 10 years Discussion/ Debate

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/11/30/easy-pay-something-costs-less-new-study-shows-medicare-all-would-save-us-51-trillion
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u/BigPlantsGuy 12d ago

Much rigor? What data do you need to see?

Life expectancy? Maternal mortality rate? Disease prevention? Affordability? Obesity rate? Heart disease? Diabetes? STDs? Aids? Addictions?

All bad

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u/Old_Height_8351 12d ago

All bad because why? Because people here don’t live healthy lives. That has nothing to do with the healthcare system. I would say you have a point if healthcare spent more time on actually doing disease prevention like teaching people how to exercise and eat healthy. But they’re too busy dealing with people that are continually sick and on meds for years at a time.

Most of the things you listed make my point. They’re all higher in the US because people don’t care about health so they have worse outcomes independent of the healthcare system

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u/BigPlantsGuy 12d ago

It has everything to do with our healthcare system. You cannot separate it, it is all related

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u/Old_Height_8351 12d ago

How does getting an STD, being obese, or having an addiction have to do with the healthcare system?

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u/BigPlantsGuy 12d ago

It’s all part of the healthcare system. Prevention is the most important part of healthcare

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u/Old_Height_8351 12d ago

I agree with you there. Problem is that you should be learning about health in school. You wouldn’t come to a hospital to learn about these things in a good system. You’re too late at that point

Schools should do serious health education and that would be helpful

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u/BigPlantsGuy 12d ago

As in like using tax dollars to have healthcare professionals teach kids about health?

That sounds like a very political choice

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u/Old_Height_8351 12d ago

We already allocate tax dollars to it, not sure there’s much politics in being healthy. We just don’t do it effectively. Might cost a little more, might not. There are a lot of factors for health and it’s an individual choice. Thats what makes it so hard. Most people are just lazy. Simple as that. It’s really not hard to be healthy for most people

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u/BigPlantsGuy 12d ago

Are you joking? We have been talking for half an hour about the politics of being healthy.

Why are democratic states so much healthier than republican states on a consistent basis?

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u/Old_Height_8351 12d ago

I don’t understand what you think I’m joking about?

I personally believe that politics has 0 effect on my overall health. That’s entirely within my control. I can eat healthy, exercise, and have quality sleep regardless of politics

Why do you think democratic states are healthier? Correlation or causation?

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