“Medicare for All” would save the U.S $5.1 Trillion over 10 years

[u/The-Lucky-Investor]

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/11/30/easy-pay-something-costs-less-new-study-shows-medicare-all-would-save-us-51-trillion

[u/Cadet_Stimpy]

The comment I was responding to was about seeing GPs or PCMs, not urgent cares.

[u/RelationPatient4136 → u/Cadet_Stimpy]

You can get imaging and quick care at a UC who cares if your specific gp is popular and therefore booked (not to mention there are plenty with same day appts if needed I literally just found 2 in my area from a cursory google check)

[u/Cadet_Stimpy → u/RelationPatient4136]

I’m not talking about emergencies, I’m talking about general care. I shouldn’t have to wait until my health is urgent to be seen. You bootlickers will make up anything to make you feel like everything is fine. Im glad your experience is going better than others, but you can’t just walk in and be seen for regular healthcare in a lot of the United States today.

[u/RelationPatient4136 → u/Cadet_Stimpy]

You can always be seen almost immediately in US. There are countless studies on wait times here so calling someone a bootlicker to defend your objectively wrong position is peak brainrot

[u/Cadet_Stimpy → u/RelationPatient4136]

Assuming that your experience is everyone’s experience is peak brainrot.

Plenty of sources discussing that healthcare worker shortage below

https://www.aha.org/fact-sheets/2021-05-26-fact-sheet-strengthening-health-care-workforce

https://onlinenursing.duq.edu/post-master-certificates/shortage-of-healthcare-workers/#:~:text=Why%20Is%20There%20a%20Shortage,care%2C%20often%20from%20physician%20specialists.

https://www.oracle.com/human-capital-management/healthcare-workforce-shortage/#:~:text=One%20study%20projects%20that%20if,more%20than%204%20million%20workers.

[u/RelationPatient4136 → u/Cadet_Stimpy]

Nice red herring. No1 said there wasn’t a shortage here just that wait times were still better here than elsewhere:

A study by the Commonwealth Fund, a nonpartisan research foundation that promotes improved health care access and quality, showed that 57 percent of adults in Canada who needed a specialist said they waited more than four weeks for an appointment, versus only 23 percent who said so in the U.S. For emergency physician visits, 23 percent of Canadians and 30 percent of Americans said they could get in to see the doctor the same day, but 23 percent of Americans and 36 percent of Canadians waited more than six days.

[u/Cadet_Stimpy → u/RelationPatient4136]

I’m telling you I’ve waited months for appointments. You’re saying you haven’t so it must not be true.

[u/RelationPatient4136 → u/Cadet_Stimpy]

There is literally verifiable evidence that for emergency and elective care we have lower wait times. The only place we are out performed is general practice and that’s honestly because most people don’t use the pcp for anything other than wellness visits.

[u/Cadet_Stimpy → u/RelationPatient4136]

All I’ve said is I’ve had to wait months for PCM appointments and that here’s a global shortage of medical professionals. I’m glad you’ve been seen in a timely fashion. I have not.