r/CharlotteHornets • u/Civrock • 22d ago
2024 NBA Draft Mega Thread
Hornets fans & visitors,
IT'S DRAFT DAY! The purpose of this mega thread is for centralized chat and discussion of anything related to this event, including fan-proposed trades, rather than countless self posts or trade machine images/links which really don't need their own threads.
Posts/articles from media or other reputable sources regarding the draft can still be posted as their own threads, this is primarily for draft commentary and trade ideas by fans; before, during and after the event. If you have a high quality text submission, go for it.
Thank you for your cooperation. Bonk on. š#ļøā£6ļøā£š
---
2024 NBA Draft:
- First Round:
Wednesday, June 26th, 2024 - 8:00 PM ET - ABC/ESPN - Second Round:
Thursday, June 27th, 2024 - 4:00 PM ET - ESPN
Hornets Draft Picks: 6, 42
4
-2
u/IamOlderthanMe 7d ago
Jeff Peterson. I will give you another year.
- If we don't draft Cooper Flagg or Ace Bailey then we RIOT
2
u/ISISCosby 7d ago
I'll bet anyone $10 that we finish closer to a play-in spot than the number 1 pick lol
3
u/Batercus 7d ago
I love that type of heart felt player.
3
u/tippitytoppitytoop 7d ago
Yep. I remember bouknight looking all offfended when he got picked at 11ā¦ while this kid here is crying his heart out.
2
2
7
u/Impossible_Dish_2197 7d ago
Damn. Wanted Christie but atleast we have a PG for summer league
3
u/ISISCosby 7d ago
atleast we have a PG for summer league
100% worth it for this reason alone, anything he gives us above that is icing
2
3
2
u/spoofrice11 7d ago edited 7d ago
Twolves fan - But have always liked the Hornets...
Couldn't they have traded back to 9th and still got Salaun, since the Grizzlies wanted to move up for Clingan?
Or did they think Spurs would take him?
I did like the pick for the Hornets, go upside when you are not ready to compete in the playoffs. But thought they could of gotten something to move back 3 of spots.
6
u/ISISCosby 7d ago
Given the mountain of Salaun to Spurs at #8 noise pre-draft, and seeing as Spurs essentially punted their #8 pick (traded Dillingham to Minn for picks in the 2030s) I'm inclined to believe he was their guy there
1
u/spoofrice11 6d ago
Thanks for the info.
Most people I listened to didn't think he would go top 10, but it's hard to know. Obviously you don't want to miss out if he is The Guy the organization definitely wanted.
2
u/Carnies 7d ago
Wonder who the pick will be at 42
3
4
2
3
u/lawlyfawx 8d ago
Imagine being Furphy or Flip right now. All that effort you put into your suit, just for you to wait another day.
3
5
7
u/SportsNAnime 8d ago
After watching a couple of draft profiles of the kid, im not upset. He's a high-risk, High reward type player. Which if we take actual time to develop him. He'll be great. His biggest weakness is his footwork and his awareness on defense, which can be fixed. Just like everyone else on the roster, he needs to put on weight and listen to the development coaches. Hopefully, we take the G league seriously and have him work on his game there with a coach who can actually help his game
7
u/ISISCosby 8d ago
So are we gonna talk about how Knecht is still available at pick 16 or nah lol
3
u/Wh_ton 8d ago
Thatās crazy I forgot he was even in the draft, someoneās gonna get a steal
8
u/ISISCosby 8d ago edited 8d ago
At this point he's absolutely gonna go to a playoff team who doesn't need him to be a hero and he'll thrive as a 3rd/4th option, and all the Knecht truthers in this sub are gonna try to "I told y'all" everyone while completely leaving out the required context lmao
ETA: of course he goes to LA lol. That'll be fun to watch from afar
1
6
u/Boruckii 8d ago
After watching 5 minutes of a 15 minute highlight video on youtube, I've seen enough.
Not really sure what we were expecting to get here, but a long 6'10 guy who is decently athletic and can hit the 3 with decent form at a better clip than most of our other draft targets doesn't seem like a bad option.
If Melo is fully healthy, he can get him in the mix.
Until the Hornets miss, I can't knock it.
-3
u/goblife 8d ago edited 8d ago
What were we projected to finish in the East before tonight, 12? We might even be projected worse now because we got someone who clearly doesnāt help us in the immediate future. Iām bummed. Some other guys I could have at least stupidly convinced myself they would lead us to playoffs.
9
u/a_moniker 8d ago
We just aren't ready to go all in an attempt to get to the playoffs. That's exactly the type of thinking that screwed up the Mitch era.
The new organization has repeatedly stated that they think it's gonna take a couple years to turn the team around, and I'm pretty excited that the team finally started thinking long-term!
3
u/ISISCosby 8d ago
Yeah we still have absolutely no clue how Brandon/Melo/Mark really fit together. This is the test run season. Either that's the core we're rocking with or we adjust tack.
Also it's entirely possible we have enough talent to flirt with the play-in right now, health depending of course. Ppl forget how much of a tear Melo was on before he got hurt again. Dude looked unstoppable
5
u/hezzanity247 8d ago
lol if you had followed anything concerning the draft this year, you should know that nobody in this draft could be considered, "they would lead us to playoffs". So he is a good upside pick.
3
u/ISISCosby 8d ago
People gotta remember that we had Mark & Melo for 41 games total. If they're healthy we're probably flirting with the play-in this year if not outright in it. Also Brooklyn is clearly voluntarily dropping out of the race next year
0
u/goblife 8d ago
I disagree. Even with them healthy, I think we suck. I want hope. I know Iām not the biggest fan in the world, but I go to about 10 games a year since 2013. Losing sucks. Iām tired of it. Iāve been tired of it. I want to win a playoff series before I die. And death first seems more likely each year. Charlotte fandom is torture.
4
u/Extra_Swordfish1917 8d ago
Never take a white center of Eastern Europe descent who won Naismith Player of the Year at #9ā¦ grizzlies shoulda learned from us
8
u/hankjr16 8d ago
They must have felt really strongly about Salaun. Because if you assume he would have gone to SA, you've got to think either Knecht or Buzelis would be there at 9 via a trade down with Memphis.
13
u/Extra_Swordfish1917 8d ago
Knowing how this subās draft opinion history, this pick gonna turn out to be the right one
7
u/righthookleft 8d ago
bruh i watched a shit load of mock drafts coming into this draft and not one had tidjane salaun. Did the hornets create this guy in 2k. Who the hell is he.
9
u/brenson_burner17 8d ago
The athletic had him going 8 on their final mock today
2
u/Alkazard 8d ago
Guessing that was after the two "source" tweets about Charlotte and then Spurs. Before today he wasn't seen pretty much anywhere.
4
u/a_moniker 8d ago
He's been consistently mocked in the top 10 for the past few weeks, and has been the most likely #8 pick for the Spurs for a while
4
7
u/angelo86 8d ago
After doing some research and watching tape for the last 5 mins. I love this pick. Clingan was just yuck. If the Spurs wanted Tidjane then we would never have gotten him at 9.
2
10
u/Babylon_Burning 8d ago
Why is Salaun the only guy they havenāt interviewed tonight?
3
9
u/Alkazard 8d ago
The most important take away from tonight is Mark Williams may not be totally fucked.
No way we passed on Clingan if we had any realistic concerns about his health/back. Surely.
7
u/ISISCosby 8d ago
I've been trying to tell this sub for weeks Mark has been fully healthy for over a month at least, nice to be vindicated a bit lol
1
u/Alkazard 8d ago
It doesn't mean he's fully healthy - Based on that one interview back at his college?
Even yesterday at the Coach introduction interview they mentioned getting him back to full health. Not like we've ever had transparency about health from this org2
u/ISISCosby 8d ago
Idk bout you, but I watched the full PC, and IMO, when Lee mentions "getting Mark healthy" (after a reporter specifically asked how he sees Mark fitting into his system) he meant it far more as a "we gotta have him on the court for more than 19 games bc dude was a problem when he played us in Boston this year" rather than "he's not healthy yet but we hope he will be."
Context matters.
Also, it's an entirely different org now. We don't know how they'll cover injuries. We went from tweeting out every single guy who visited with us under MJ/Mitch to not publicly reporting a single thing about our workouts this year.
3
u/ImIncredibly_stupid 8d ago
It had been rumored for several days that Salaun was impressing a lot in the workouts of several teams.
Let's see how true it was
5
u/net_403 8d ago
Ooo. I'm hearing a report that Steve Clifford is in love with this guy.
Commence people freaking out about not firing him
9
8
2
u/youllneverknowhy 8d ago
Is the āreport youāre hearingā literally just the KOC tweet?
3
u/net_403 8d ago
I don't remember who they said it came from, I'm listening to WFNZ and they mentioned it after the pic
1
u/youllneverknowhy 8d ago
I guess itās just me but it feels weird to say the āreport youāre hearingā is just the radio.
6
u/a_moniker 8d ago
Clifford knows bigmen, and usually doesn't have the worst draft takes. He was obsessed with Miller and Donovan Mitchell as well. Ima trust it.
2
u/winning_cheese 8d ago
Well Iām not gonna sit here and act like I had the same feeling of unease when we drafted Miller. so who knows, maybe it works out.
-2
u/Extra_Swordfish1917 8d ago
Weāve gotta be trading this guy
6
u/a_moniker 8d ago
Nah, if we were trading him it'd be Clingan.
Tidjane fills a big need for the team, and we're not nearly good enough of a team to skip over a developmental player that we think has potential
1
7
u/hankjr16 8d ago
What's done is done. As far as process, at least they went young so it's clear nobody has any delusions in the FO or ownership. This is a long term building process. Let this guy develop a couple years. Let us get a lottery pick in next year's draft. Then see where we are.
5
u/a_moniker 8d ago
Yeah, the entire organization has made it very clear that they view this as a multi-year rebuild. Taking Tidjane just corroborates that.
People should probably get used to the idea that we let Miles walk, if he gets too big of an offer.
1
u/SportsNAnime 8d ago
... i dont know, buddy, so i won't say anything. Is Janes Nnaji coming over this year?
4
u/OokerDuker 8d ago
Heard he sucks. Can't even get off the bench. Don't think he will make an impact over here lol
5
3
u/iMissKemba 8d ago
Not going to act like I know whether Salaun will pan out or not, I really hope he does
But I do feel fairly confident that we could've traded down, got additional assets and still scooped this guy up. So yeah questionable pick at #6
6
u/Particular_Twist_653 8d ago
Supposedly Spurs were going him at 8 so if we wanted him we needed to move (if that report is true)
4
u/ISISCosby 8d ago
Seeing as Spurs essentially punted their #8 pick (traded Dillingham to Minn for picks in the 2030s) I'm inclined to believe he was their guy
4
7
7
u/YoungFlexibleShawty 8d ago
I like this, its a shitty draft, might as well go out swinging
5
u/a_moniker 8d ago
He doesn't even have to hit his "ceiling" in order to be a good pick. His middle outcome is that he's just a energizer catch-and-shoot forward with size. That's still a useful role player.
3
u/YoungFlexibleShawty 8d ago
Yup, anything extra would be great.
1
u/a_moniker 8d ago
Yeah, but even that may have not been on the board, if the Blazers got wind that the Grizzlies weren't offering much though
-6
4
u/Particular_Twist_653 8d ago
I know nothing about French ball and wonāt pretend I doā¦. Welcome to Buzz City Salaun!
1
3
2
7
u/Longjumping-Check429 8d ago
Feel like we should have traded down to get him but we did need a Forward with size.
6
5
u/ApprehensiveCut1068 8d ago
Spurs wanted him so we couldnt drop past 8
1
u/Longjumping-Check429 8d ago
Yeah and it probably wasnāt possible to hold Clingan to ransom against Portland.
Feel like this is definitely a statement that we are a few years away from competing.
5
5
2
8d ago
I believed in ball, I believed in miller. I am a this guy doubter.
5
u/Alkazard 8d ago
Maybe I learnt from being a Miller non-believer (I'm still sorry my King) but given this draft has such little excitement or hope I think I'm actually pretty excited with this pick
3
8
4
u/Alhorfordsbarber 8d ago
Like the pick. Wish we could have traded back for him but Spurs rumored to take him at 8.
5
u/a_moniker 8d ago
Spurs likely would've taken him at #8, so we couldn't have traded back far for him
2
u/Longjumping-Check429 8d ago
We were in talks with Portland as woj reported
2
u/a_moniker 8d ago
Yeah, they likely had a feeling we weren't taking Clingan, and as a result weren't willing to trade much to move up one spot. It would've been a single 2nd round pick or something.
1
1
3
u/hankjr16 8d ago
I have absolutely no problem with them targeting this player. For all I know, he's gonna be the best guy on the board. But couldn't you trade back with one of the teams that want Clingan? I was hoping from more from the new front office.
3
u/ImIncredibly_stupid 8d ago
With Brandon and Scoot's situation more than one has not learned humility in this subreddit.
9
2
4
u/RollTide16-18 8d ago
9 PPG in the French league, weāre cooked
3
u/YoungFlexibleShawty 8d ago
He's 18 lol
-1
u/RollTide16-18 8d ago
Yeah and how was lamelo doing in a foreign league when he was that young?Ā
2
u/YoungFlexibleShawty 8d ago
Lamelo was a generational talent LOL you're comparing apples to oranges
2
2
u/TheJunkyardDog 8d ago
37% fg and 33% 3p with 76% ft should be more concerning
3
u/a_moniker 8d ago
77% free throw and 33% from 3 on super high volume are decent numbers for young player, particularly when it's in a good league
-1
u/TheJunkyardDog 8d ago
the french league is extremely weak.
their best team is dead last in the euroleague year after year.
5
8d ago edited 8d ago
[deleted]
1
u/ApprehensiveCut1068 8d ago
I mean he could bust but isnt this the kind of draft where you swing for a player that can potential be a threat offensively and defensively? Rather than taking a safe pick who cant play offense at all.
3
3
u/OokerDuker 8d ago
Never even heard of this dude. Is he good lol?
1
-1
u/No_Independent8269 8d ago
hes good but hes more of a late 1st rounder - early second rounder
1
u/Particular_Twist_653 8d ago
That is absolutely not trueā¦ he is 8-15 on every big board Iāve seen
0
2
u/mantistoboggan287 8d ago
Literally just texted my draft group chat with this sentiment. Should I be happy or upset haha.
6
6
1
7
u/a_moniker 8d ago
I like it! He's a dawg, and one of the few prospects who have the potential to be able to shoot and defend. First time we've had real size at PF that I can remember as well!
1
u/One_Winter_8466 8d ago
hes a projected he is a few years away
1
u/a_moniker 8d ago
For sure. I'm not sure that's the worst thing though. If we want to win long-term, then our best bet may be to tank for one more year so the we don't have to give a first to San Antonio. It'd essentially be resetting the timeline from being based around LaMelo to being based around Miller
1
16
5
1
-1
u/theiwc0303 8d ago
Unless we suddenly become a team great at development, Salaun is basically a guaranteed dud. Heās incredibly raw, struggles creating on his own and doesnāt have even close to a high basketball IQ. Knecht was the guy here or maybe even Clingan, this is a bad pick
1
1
4
2
2
4
7
u/Cricket-Unfair 8d ago
Remember: hate on the pick as much as possible so our negative luck makes it a success
2
2
3
4
3
8
2
u/a_moniker 8d ago
Rumors are that we are trading down with either Memphis or Portland It's Tidjane Salaun!
4
u/WafflesTheWookiee 8d ago
Remember, if you find out who weāre drafting, donāt spoil it for the rest of us
2
11
1
9
2
1
2
u/Pacowles 8d ago
Take the Klingon and sort it out later. Trade him or keep him, just donāt get cute here.
2
u/Rhojanxd 8d ago
Looks like we're trading back to 9.
1
u/CareerMental5067 8d ago
Source? Saw nba central tweet that but canāt see woj nor shams tweet so
1
1
3
u/ApprehensiveCut1068 8d ago
People who wanted both Duren and Mark on the roster last year are now opposed to us having Mark and Clingan?
2
0
u/hankjr16 8d ago
Dream scenario - trade back to #9 with Memphis who are hot for Clingan. Then pick Knecht anyway.
5
u/iMissKemba 8d ago
Damn I wanted Holland tbh. Ideally we'd trade down but with Mark's health problems I wouldn't hate Clingan
5
u/ISISCosby 8d ago
Anyone who said they saw Holland to Detroit coming is a fucking liar lmao
HERE WE GO
2
4
3
u/dubebe 7d ago
Armchair general managing is at an all time high right now