r/CharlotteHornets • u/IamOlderthanMe • Jul 18 '23
Miles Bridges Apologizes During Hornets Press Conference Video
https://streamable.com/85pmmu145
u/King-Of-Zembla Jul 18 '23
I’d like to share my thoughts on situations like this, which come from an old Catholic concept, but I find to be a useful framework regardless of your thoughts on religion. Forgiveness is granted when a wrongdoer has fulfilled 3 steps: confession, contrition, and satisfaction.
Confession occurs when a wrongdoer acknowledges what they have done, and recognizes that it was bad. I believe Miles has done this. Would he ever have, if he hadn’t been arrested? I have no idea, but he’s certainly had to face the reality of his behavior by now.
Contrition involves feeling true remorse about your actions. I can’t see into Miles’s soul, and I don’t know how he’s behaved around his family in the wake of this. I hope he does feel deep regret, but I think he has to explicitly discuss those feelings with the public a lot more for me to believe it’s not just a PR line.
Satisfaction requires doing acts of good work to try to right your wrongs. Miles can do this by treating his partner and children well, and again, I’m not privy to those details. But Miles is also in a position where he can speak out about domestic violence and do good work in his community to try to rectify, at least in part, the horrible things he’s done. I hope Miles does commit money, time, and care to the issue of domestic violence. So far, I haven’t seen much evidence of this.
If Miles can address all three of these points, I’m quite willing to forgive him (as a fan). If he makes little progress on these, I don’t feel comfortable rooting for him or having him as part of the organization. This is not an easy process, but I hope Miles can truly work through all of it with the help of those around him.
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u/IamOlderthanMe Jul 18 '23
https://twitter.com/NickCarboniWCNC/status/1681323830701162497?t=Ko7QCF5s5fC6SGee5CzTzQ&s=19
Kupchak indicates both MJ and incoming owners Rick Schnall/Gabe Plotkin were involved in discussions to bring Bridges back. Says it was unanimous decision to bring him back.
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u/dave-train Jul 18 '23
That's a start. Still needs to do something for domestic violence victims and the community of Charlotte.
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u/TheCudder Jul 18 '23
Not sure how you meant this, but you made it sound like a publica relations & branding checklist item, lol. He needs to do more than that...and becoming a better person and/or righting wrongs isn't necessarily something that needs to be done publicly.
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u/dave-train Jul 18 '23
It did come off like that lol, sorry. Just meant that we've been waiting for literally anything to show that he means to make the situation right in any way shape or form.
I as a fan want to love the team, but I as a human also want to stand against abuse. And if he just comes back and plays basketball without acknowledging anything, then in my mind I can't really do both of those things.
Because up until now what we've seen from him is basically the same as what we would have seen if he had zero remorse. So why would I believe he is becoming better?
Him apologizing makes me feel a little bit better about that, even if it feels a little weak. But it gives me hope that maybe he will actively work on improving himself or righting his wrongs.
In this case I do think some of it should be public. Because he did publicly cause harm to the fandom and the community of Charlotte. So to publicly make that right seems appropriate enough.
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u/johnsom3 Jul 18 '23
Why, what does this show or prove? People who like Miles will say its proof he has changed. People who dont like him will call it cynical and label it PR.
IMO this has nothing to do with the fans. He torpedoed last season and that hurt the franchise and by extension the fans, but he has personally paid dearly for that. He doesnt owe the franchise or the fans anything more. The only obligations he has now are to his family and the victim. Fans centering themselves and demanding public statements, acts of contrition come off as extremely entitled.
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u/BanditPrime Jul 19 '23
Eh I would disagree. It does involve fans because his livelihood Is directly affected by fans when it comes to how much money they spend on the team. Especially money spent on his merch. At the end of the day how he treats his family is absolutely the most important thing. But fan opinion of him does matter at least a little bit.
As for what it shows. I heavily dislike miles currently and am not a fan of him coming back to the team or having to cheer for him by proxy. But I also do believe people deserve second chances. So him making a public apology is a good start and I’d like to think he can and will show growth. But since we don’t have nor deserve to see into his public life the only way fans can see change is through his public actions and his words.
I get what you’re saying that a lot of people will just call it pr and other people will defend him no matter what. But those are just the vocal minorities on the edges of each side of opinion on him. It’s showing the people in the middle, that aren’t perpetually arguing online, that he’s changed and that it would have an impact on.
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u/OldAckley Jul 18 '23
I hope he is more serious with beeing a better person than Ja Morant is...
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u/_Wado3000 Jul 18 '23
One was significantly more heinous, but I can believe Miles has more sense to never do this shit again than Ja did.
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u/dpons_ Jul 18 '23
The most generic boilerplate “apology” I’ve ever heard
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u/Zotzotbaby Jul 19 '23
I hope people are more forgiving in your life, than you are to Miles. He made a mistake, there were other factors involved, and he paid for his mistake.
We can’t throw people out every time they make a mistake, else the world would have no people.
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u/Wasabi_Guacamole Jul 18 '23
I dont believe him, but that's me, and I'm not owner of the team. He can still turn his life around, but it would take decades of no issues for him to gain my support; I do wish it happens.
I'll still support the team, just a lot less public now.
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Jul 18 '23
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u/Binh3 Jul 18 '23 edited Jul 19 '23
In regards to your fitst paragraph, not necessarily. People pleaad out to lesser charges in domestic violence 90 % of the time.. Most resort to probation and anger management.. Few go to orison for it. As far as punishment, he costs himself at least 60 million dollars.. And he mizsed a whole year of NBA.. If he takes his anger management classes I think hes paid his dues.. Yes I agree a public apology is not enough but it he needed to do it.. If he didn't we'd be bitching about the fact that he didn't give a public apology.. But I do agree actions speak louder than words..
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u/_trife Jul 19 '23
He absolutely has been properly punished. Whatever his status in society is, his case went through the proper legal channels. Not liking the outcome is one thing (and understandable). But to say he hasn’t been properly punished is dumb.
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u/theRestisConfettii Jul 18 '23
Apology accepted, Miles.
Now let’s get to work.
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u/Bigdeacenergy Jul 18 '23
The apology was fine but he and Mitch can’t sit there and say he’s being held accountable for his actions when he refuses to actually answer any questions. That’s not being held accountable or expand upon his therapy/steps he’s taken to change.
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u/frostedcarmel96 Jul 18 '23
Miles owes nobody any explanation about his therapy, that’s between him and his therapist.
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u/Bigdeacenergy Jul 18 '23
He doesn’t owe anyone an explanation. But don’t go and say how you’re being held accountable without actually being held accountable lol by refusing to answer any questions
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u/_trife Jul 19 '23
Respectfully, you sound very entitled. YOU don’t get to determine accountability. The courts do. His employer does. And most importantly, his family does.
We’re just fans of guys putting a ball in a hoop. Keep it that way and understand that’s all we are.
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u/frostedcarmel96 Jul 19 '23
And your entitlement is shining through. He apologized, says he’s and therapy so that should be enough for us as fans, doesn’t mean what he did is right but give him grace if not then just keep it moving. Mind your business and allow Miles to SHOW us how he’s improved.
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u/shmoneyj Jul 18 '23
If the league investigated and gave him punishment it’s not up to us to agree with it.
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u/Vegetable-Tooth8463 Jul 23 '23
Answering questions about the matter has a chance of violating any court agreements.
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u/herox_108 Jul 18 '23
Really unsatisfied with Miles’ responses here, and this is coming as someone who believes in redeeming oneself from even the most heinous stuff. Maybe it’s just poor media literacy on his part, but when you give the same stock answer of “improving myself everyday to make others proud” it really makes me question how seriously he’s taking the year off he’s had. Talk about how therapy is giving you presence of mind to think before you act, talk about how basketball served as therapeutic outlet for you, talk about how spending time with family made you realize what was important to you. He said none of it. Just that he’s “improving everyday”. Whatever that means
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u/DanMarinoTambourineo Jul 18 '23
The vast majority of people aren’t that introspective.
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u/thatguysunny Jul 18 '23
a large portion of therapy is introspection
I think that’s the commenters’ point lol
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u/MitchLGC Jul 18 '23
There's nothing he can say to make post people satisfied.
The goalposts will always be moved
You sound like you wanted an episode of Dr. Phil.
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u/Wasabi_Guacamole Jul 19 '23
Nah dude, just time and consistency is all we need. If he ends his NBA career in 9 years time and he never does something else anymore, then great!
Its still too early to tell right now though. One year, that's not a long time to show you're sorry and wont do it again.
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u/feo101 Jul 19 '23
Agreed , but thats not what the guy he’s replying to is saying at all. He can talk all he wants but he’s gotta show us with action across time, and that’s all he really can do. If anything the guy you replied to probably agrees with you, he’s just saying that none of the things the other guy said miles should do would make a difference either, as they are just words.
Just realized how long winded this was about nothing. Sorry I’m stoned.
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u/giga_phantom Jul 18 '23
The only thing he’s sorry about is that he got caught. Whatever. I hope he does well enough that we trade him by the deadline this year.
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u/shmoneyj Jul 18 '23
You know, I was kind of against being Miles back. That being said, that’s our guy. He owned it. He’s always done that. He is still that kid and made a mistake. This year could be really special having 3 guys in contract years essentially in Miles, PJ and Gordon.
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u/Civrock Jul 19 '23 edited Jul 19 '23
[Full Video] Hornets Press Conference | Miles Bridges and General Manager Mitch Kupchak